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Bonus: SchadenFriday | Muslim, Millennial, Mr. Mayor Mamdani

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

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🗓️ 7 November 2025

⏱️ 6 minutes

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Summary

Well well well. Looks like being a truculent, aging sex pest who clearly hates the constituency he aspires to rule only works in national elections. In New York City, Zohran Mamdani overcame the longshot odds that came from being charismatic, energetic, and actually interested in government. Guest: Aymann Ismail, Slate staff writer and author of “Mamdani’s Win Is a Reminder of What’s Possible.” This episode is member-exclusive. Listen to it now by subscribing to Slate Plus. By joining, not only will you unlock exclusive episodes of What Next —you’ll also access ad-free listening across all your favorite Slate podcasts. You can subscribe directly from the What Next show page on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Or, visit slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, and Rob Gunther. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Happy Friday Slatesters.

0:01.5

Welcome back to another edition of Shoutin Friday.

0:04.7

You know what this is.

0:05.6

This is our very special Slate Plus.

0:07.0

You know what time it is.

0:08.5

Sorry, I'll shut up.

0:09.9

Amen!

0:11.0

I'm getting at my like funk flex vibe right now.

0:14.0

I'll just be in the back doing the...

0:15.1

Okay.

0:16.1

Amen Ismail needs no introduction.

0:18.8

Slate staff writer.

0:20.7

And we have brought him on for Shout

0:22.9

and Friday because I got to tell you, this is the Shout in Fridayest Shout in Friday that we've

0:28.1

yet had. And that is because this week, what happened that gave me the smiling devil emoji

0:34.4

energy is that the Democrats kind of kicked ass on Tuesday in the election. I mean, I'm not, I don't want to say it out loud. I feel like I could jinx it. I don't know. How do you feel about this, amen? I try not to like subscribe to any political party. Agree. But I am a Muslim American and I have a heart and I have empathy. And so I tend to skew one way or another. And if that tells you which party I usually vote for, I think that says it all. Yeah. I mean, it's really not about the Democrats, because I got plenty of bones to pick with them. It's more, it's the anti-Trump energy. Let's be real. Yeah. It's the you don't want your, the person working at your daycare with your kids to get deported. Yes. It's the you don't want your, uh, the person working at your daycare with your kids to get

1:12.7

deported. Yes. It's the, you don't want the buses to crash and you don't want airplay to fall out

1:17.5

of the sky, that kind of energy. I would like people who need food benefits to receive them.

1:23.3

It'd be nice if people could eat. It would be good. And if that makes me a monster, so we're,

1:27.2

so to give some context, so we're...

1:27.5

So to give some context, when we're talking about big wins for the Democrats this week,

1:32.6

we don't just mean like gubernatorial races, mayoral races, Zoran Mamdani.

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