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🗓️ 2 June 2025
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0:00.0 | Question. What do you picture when I say the word protester? Do you see a weekend tourist with a latte in one hand and a political sign in the other chanting with the crowd as they meander peacefully along the state-permitted protest route? |
0:17.0 | Or does your imagination conjure a nimble and defiant character dressed in black, getting |
0:22.1 | in the face of the Magas, fighting cops, and causing tactically orchestrated mayhem and property |
0:27.9 | damage behind the anonymity of a masked face? A recent guest on our show, Benjamin S. Case, |
0:35.4 | is the author of a 22 academicacademic paper titled Contentious |
0:39.2 | Effervescence, which describes being swept away in the heightened state of euphoria, |
0:44.0 | empowerment, and group identification from the experience of participating in riots. |
0:49.9 | In his book, Street Rebellion, Case presents research interviews on the subjective experience of rioters |
0:55.7 | and concludes that their actions, I'm quoting here, can play a nourishing role for radical's will to resist. |
1:02.5 | He quotes one subject as saying, |
1:05.8 | While we are debating strategy, setting things on fire is an expression of sheer resistance that is as good an idea |
1:12.8 | as the next. Now, we're all left of center on this podcast, and so are most of our guests, |
1:21.0 | but on the spectrum of political action that runs from smashing shop windows, setting fire |
1:26.1 | to restaurants and cars, |
1:30.6 | and actively fighting counter-protesters and police, |
1:35.0 | to disciplined peaceful protest based on the principles of nonviolence, |
1:37.4 | I'm much more aligned with the latter. |
1:39.5 | Now, that's a preference, |
1:44.5 | and it's based on the kind of idealism that holds up the campaigns of Mahondas Gandhi, |
1:50.6 | Martin Luther King, and Nelson Mandela from my own home country as examples of what some theorists call people power. And this stance says that when enough people join a movement that protests |
1:56.3 | nonviolently against unjust laws and government actions, they will eventually prevail due, in part, |
2:03.7 | to holding a kind of moral high ground that both draws in new participants and succeeds at winning |
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