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Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps

Bonus: Michael Kimmage, Obama's Ukraine Chief

Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps

Josh Szeps

Comedy Interviews, Self-improvement, Society & Culture, Education, Comedy

4.6863 Ratings

🗓️ 24 March 2022

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Michael Kimmage held the Russia/Ukraine portfolio in President Obama's State Department. He's an expert on international affairs, U.S.-Russian relations and American diplomatic history.

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0:00.0

Some conversations are worth having, but not all the time.

0:06.4

And maybe Ukraine is one of those conversations.

0:09.7

It's something I don't want to abandon.

0:11.8

It's something I want to keep understanding.

0:13.4

It's something about which there are so many experts that it would be foolish

0:16.9

to think that any single guest has been able to give us the entirety of the information.

0:21.5

So I want to keep talking to Ukraine experts.

0:24.9

But I also don't want to overwhelm you with exclusively Ukraine content.

0:29.5

Because curious as I am in that story, it shouldn't suck all the oxygen out of the room.

0:35.1

It shouldn't be the only thing we focus on.

0:36.6

And frankly,

0:38.0

if I have Ukraine fatigue, then I imagine that you probably do too. So rather than continue pursuing

0:44.6

different perspectives on exactly what Putin is doing and what Russia's game plan is and the extent

0:49.4

to which the West is responsible and what the West should do and what the likely outcomes might

0:53.2

be and what the humanitarian catastrophe for Ukraine will be and what they should do, et cetera, et cetera.

0:58.0

Instead of putting all of that into the conventional feed with the once a week main episode,

1:03.6

I will just throw these in as free bonus episodes. If you like this, let us know.

1:09.5

If you don't like this, let us know.

1:12.4

In fact, as we look forward and try to construct what the next few years of this podcast will be,

1:17.3

I'd like to know what you like anyway.

1:20.3

Either tweet at me at Josh Sepps or, better still, send an email to Uncomfeyconvo's at gmail.com.

1:29.1

And my producer will get it, we'll collate them all, and we will help, you'll help form the trajectory of the direction of the show.

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