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Strict Scrutiny

BONUS: Melissa Murray on ACLU's "At Liberty"

Strict Scrutiny

Crooked Media

Philosophy, News, Government, Supreme Court, Society & Culture

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🗓️ 11 November 2019

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

The Supreme Court struck down bans on interracial marriage in Loving v. Virginia, the landmark ACLU case decided in 1967. But the government‘s regulation of marriage and sex didn’t start with anti-miscegenation laws or end with Loving. Melissa Murray — an expert in family law, constitutional law, and reproductive rights and justice at the New York University School of Law — discusses why the institution looms so large in America's past and present. This episode was recorded live at the Brooklyn Public Library, as part of “‘Til Victory is Won,” an evening commemorating the 400th anniversary of the arrival of the first enslaved Africans to America’s shores.

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0:00.0

Hey there, Strix Gretening listeners. This is Melissa Murray and I have a really special podcast for

0:05.6

you all. A couple of weeks ago I sat down with the ACLU's Emerson Sykes to tape an episode of

0:12.8

their podcast at Liberty. And this podcast was focused on one of my favorite Supreme Court cases

0:17.7

of all time, 1967's Loving versus Virginia, which as many of you know was the case that struck

0:25.0

down bands on interracial marriage across the United States. Emerson and I sat down as part of a

0:31.2

larger conversation sparked by the 1619 project, which was launched by journalist Nicole Hannah Jones

0:38.5

to consider the vestiges and implications of slavery on the history of the United States and its

0:44.4

future. So when Emerson and I sat down, we were thinking specifically about the role that marriage

0:49.3

has played in fostering racial hierarchies throughout the United States over time and what

0:55.3

marriage might mean going forward for racial progress and racial justice. So I hope you enjoy

1:01.2

this. We are featuring this as a Strix Gretening podcast in conjunction with at Liberty the ACLU's

1:06.8

podcast and we are really grateful to Emerson and Noah Yacote for their help producing this and

1:12.6

for bringing it to you all. Thanks so much. From the ACLU, this is At Liberty. I'm Emerson Sykes,

1:24.2

a staff attorney here at the ACLU and your host.

1:33.3

This week, we're airing a special conversation we recorded recently in front of a live audience

1:38.4

about the landmark ACLU case, Loving Versus Virginia, which struck down bands on interracial

1:43.9

marriage. The discussion took place at the Brooklyn Public Library as part of an event titled

1:49.2

Till Victory is One, commemorating the 400th anniversary of the arrival of the first enslaved

1:54.4

Africans to America's shores. I spoke with Melissa Murray, a professor at New York University

2:00.0

School of Law. Our conversation covered the long history of legal restrictions on sex and marriage

2:05.3

that have served to protect and reinforce white supremacy. I hope you enjoy.

2:09.9

Good evening. Thank you very much for joining us. This is a great honor and a pleasure to be here

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