Bonus: Let's Have an Uncomfortable Gender Conversation
The Political Orphanage
Andrew Heaton
4.9 • 1000 Ratings
🗓️ 20 December 2021
⏱️ 88 minutes
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Summary
Released from behind the paywall: Dr. Andrea Jones-Rooy joins to talk about the nature of gender, and what it's like for people who don't easily fit into the existing boxes.
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| 0:00.0 | I debated whether or not to release this episode on the main feed. |
| 0:05.0 | As you know, I do a bonus episode of the show each week for patrons, |
| 0:09.0 | and occasionally if a bunch of patrons reach out and tell me they'd like me to release an episode for general |
| 0:14.0 | consumption, I oblige. |
| 0:16.4 | But I went back and forth on this one because we're dealing with some fraught topics. |
| 0:22.1 | Gender, Transgender, the difference between men and women, the last of which is the |
| 0:27.2 | one that I think is more apt to get you in trouble than anything. |
| 0:30.2 | It used to be kind of a rich fodder for observational comics in the 90s, but now if you shoot from the hip on what makes men and women different, you can get a senior thesis written up about you. |
| 0:41.0 | But I'm putting today's episode on the main feed, despite some |
| 0:44.1 | sensitive issues we're going to cover, because I've come to the following |
| 0:47.2 | conclusion. If we're going to have meaningful conversations, substantive |
| 0:52.3 | conversations about awkward subjects, |
| 0:56.7 | then decent, curious people can't be afraid to talk out loud about them and verbally investigate new ideas. |
| 1:04.0 | Everybody keeps saying we need to have an important national conversation about X. |
| 1:09.0 | But at the same time a lot of us are afraid to talk out loud in that conversation for fear of getting |
| 1:16.0 | shamed or made fun of or cancelled or socially marooned. |
| 1:19.8 | Well that's not a conversation, that's a lecture, or maybe a sermon. |
| 1:24.8 | So upon reflection, it seems kind of hypocritical of me |
| 1:29.6 | as a professional dude who talks into a microphone to tell you all to feel more empowered to discuss |
| 1:34.9 | sensitive subjects out loud. You should feel comfortable doing that. But then when we get into |
| 1:40.0 | some actual sensitive stuff, I'm just going to keep my mouth shut. |
| 1:43.0 | So I'm going to put my money where my mouth is on this one. |
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