Hello everybody, it's Shapo here with a special bonus episode for you.

We've got a hot interview for you that I think will serve as a really good companion piece

to our recent JFK episode and our ongoing Epstein-Induced Mania.

We're talking with a journalist Tom O'Neill about his book Chaos, Charles Manson, the CIA

and the secret history of the 60s.

And this is a book that I think totally reconfigures everything that we think we know about

the Manson case.

And without providing any definitive bulletproof, conclusive proof, begins to point towards

a story that is really about the secret wars that the CIA and FBI were waging in the

60s against the left and the counterculture.

Also as a special treat, we have a guest co-host.

It's Noah Cohen back again.

Hi everybody.

Noah, you're here because you've actually read the entire book.

I am.

Like a fucking nerd.

Yes.

And I loved it.

It's the background to this book is also fascinating.

And he goes very deep into it in the book, which is that this story that he initially was

going to write about Charles Manson began as a magazine article for Premiere Magazine, a

Hollywood trade publication in 1999 for the 30th anniversary of the Manson, of the Manson

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