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The Documentary Podcast

Bonus: HARDtalk - The Whistleblowers

The Documentary Podcast

BBC

Society & Culture, Documentary, Personal Journals

4.32.6K Ratings

🗓️ 30 July 2024

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

In a special edition of HARDtalk Stephen Sackur looks back at some of the guests who have risked their personal freedom to disclose secret information. What motivates these whistleblowers?

This is a bonus episode from HARDtalk, a show that brings you in-depth, hard-hitting interviews with newsworthy personalities. For more episodes search for HARDtalk wherever your get your BBC podcasts.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the documentary from the BBC World Service.

0:04.6

I'm Stephen Sacker, host of the BBC's Hard Talk podcast,

0:08.9

where you can hear in-depth hard-hitting interviews with newsmaking personalities.

0:15.0

Over the years on this program, we've spoken to a number of people who've put their careers,

0:19.7

their personal lives, and freedom at risk to reveal secrets. We know them as whistleblowers.

0:27.0

They've taken on governments and corporations.

0:30.0

They've displayed extraordinary defiance in the face of power.

0:34.0

For some it's meant isolation, persecution and imprisonment.

0:39.0

So what motivates individuals to break codes of silence whatever the cost.

0:45.0

Well, Julian Assange is probably the most famous recent whistleblower.

0:50.0

He's just regained his freedom after pleading guilty to a single charge of

0:54.5

conspiracy to obtain and disclose national defense information. He'd spent a

1:00.6

dozen years in isolation. seven years hold up in the Ecuadorian embassy in London,

1:07.0

and then five years in a high security UK prison, his alleged crime, publishing the so-called WikiLeaks papers.

1:16.0

Thousands of pages of classified information, including some that exposed ugly truths about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

1:26.0

The US government argued that the leaks endangered intelligence

1:29.0

operatives in the field,

1:31.0

an accusation that Assange and his team have always denied.

1:35.8

But how did Assange get these secret papers?

1:39.2

Well, they were sent to him by a low-level US intelligence operative called Bradley now Chelsea Manning and in

1:47.0

2022 I spoke to her.

1:49.8

Is it on your conscience that these names you didn't sift the information it turns out you

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