Open your body behind.

body behind.

Hi, I'm Damien Horner.

And I'm the macro genius Ral-Pahl.

As you can, we're both the co-founders of Real Vision as you know, and as you can tell, we're confused.

I'll say.

I think one of the things that is a predominant theme that we get to hear all the time is that people don't really

understand how to invest. So there's a lot of information on Real Vision and it becomes a really

confusing thing. And look I've been in this business for 30 odd years

and I don't really know what I'm doing all the time.

I make huge mistakes and I'm always learning.

And Damien is an idiot and doesn't know anything. Exactly. I feel like if anyone knows Carl Pilkington and Ricky Gervais, I feel that I often have to assume the

Carl Pilkington role. Basically I'm here to make Raoul look good, look clever.

I think it's true. One of the things that's interesting about learning is that as soon as you use the

word learning people think you're talking about beginners in the industry you're

talking about people who don't know anything and oh that's not for me or that's for

people who are just starting out investing and I think what I find fascinating you

know looking in and seeing both the speakers on Real Vision, but also the

comments that we get and the feedback we get from members is there's always something that

people don't understand. Even the most sophisticated investors can be very open with you and say,

look, I just don't understand that trade.

It looks good.

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