We are so excited to bring you this bonus episode, courtesy of our friends from the Body to

Barial podcast.

While Maggie and I discuss crimes and the theories concerning those who committed them,

Body to Barial interviews various experts involved in all stages of solving a crime, including

people like forensic artists, jury consultants, and crime scene

cleaners. In this episode, they bring you an interview with a hostage negotiator. If you enjoy

their show, please follow their show and consider leaving a five-star review. We hope you

enjoy, and Maggie and I will be right back here

on Thursday with a new episode from us. Until then, Sleuth Hounds. This episode may contain

content of a graphic nature. Listener discretion is advised. Thanks for joining us today on another

episode of Body to Barial. I'm Mariah. And I'm Nikki.

We're just two regular true crime junkies who decided it was time to see crime from a new

perspective. This is Body to Barrier. Okay, Nikki, it's your turn this week. Who do you have for me? Because I am dying to know who we're talking to.

This week, we have Gary Nestner. He is a FBI hostage negotiator. What? Did you ever watch Waco?

That guy from Waco is who we're talking to? Uh-huh. Oh my God, I'm so excited. I loved that

miniseries myself, but I just feel like it would be such a hard, like, job to convince someone to

basically stop what they're doing, surrender or talk them down, all that. Oh, that's so cool.

I'm so pumped.

Yeah, he has a book called Stalling for Time, My Life as an FBI hostage negotiator.

It's pretty interesting to read.

I think this is like such a fun person to talk to because I feel like that's such like

a fictionalized job. Like you don't think that that's like a real job, you know, to be like, tell us what you want so that you release these people. Like it's just so crazy that that's like somebody's actual job. Yeah. So I'm excited. Isn't that fun? I'm so excited. Let's have him get us. Or join us. Not get us. Let's have him join us. Okay. All right. Let me go give him a call. Hello. Hey, Gary. How are you? I'm good. How are you? I'm good. Thank you. Well, I have Mariah on here with us. Hey, Gary. Okay. Can you hear me? Yes, we can. Nikki, you want to lead him in?

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