Hey, it's Manus here. We are all in the midst of wrapping up 2021. And here on the show,

we want to dive back into our series about oceans. Last week was part one, a love letter

to the ocean. And before we get to part two, well, we've got something special for you,

from our friends at the podcast How to Save a Planet from Gimlet. It's hosted by former

NPR journalist Alex Bloomberg and marine biologist Ayanna Elizabeth Johnson. Ayanna is a

Ted Speaker and you might recognize her voice. She is featured not once, but twice in our

ocean series because she's that good. Yes, we love Ayanna. And we also love this episode

about kelp and kelp farming, especially a variety that I had not heard of called sugar

kelp. So we wanted to share it with you right here right now. Enjoy. Welcome to How to Save

a Planet. I'm Dr. Ayanna Elizabeth Johnson. And I'm Alex Bloomberg. And this is the podcast

where we talk about what we need to do to address the climate crisis and how we make those

things happen. So Alex, back when we were first discussing this podcast, when it was

what the barest idea of a seed in our minds, I knew that I definitely wanted us to introduce

this fascinating fisherman, Brent Smith. And I was like fascinating fisherman. I'm in.

He's so much fun to talk to. He's got an amazing life story. And we got him to share it

with us. Brent told us he grew up in Newfoundland, Canada in a small town called Maddox

Cove. It's the most eastern point in all of North America. You know, our houses were

bolted to the cliffs up above the ocean. And imagine they were red, green, yellow, orange

houses, all painted, would leftover boat paint. And you know, the saying around town was

that we paint them bright colors so we can find our way home, drunken the fog. And it

was just like the I did look town. I was you know, fishermen co-op next door, kids growing,

selling cod tongues door to door, squid runs, capon runs. It was just sort of, you know,

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