Hello and welcome to a bonus episode of the Witch Wave.

Surprise and hooray because yes, yes, yes. At long last, my new book,

Magic Maker, The Enchanted Path to Creativity is out now! I am so overjoyed to finally share it with you, and I hope it brings you so much

magic and inspiration, and that it spurs you to make the magic you're meant to make through

your own creative offerings. Now, if you're listening to this episode on the day it drops,

which is Tuesday, October 14th.

And if you happen to be in New York City, please join me tonight for the Magic Maker book launch at Book Club Bar in the East Village.

I'll be in conversation with the acculture writer Mitch Horowitz, my old pal, and recent witch wave guest.

I'll be signing books after, and I'm told there will be cake.

So, come on by at 8 p.m. I would love to see you there.

And if you can't make it, have no fear.

There are tons of other magic maker events happening both in person and online.

So check out pamgrossman.com slash events to find out about all of them.

Okay.

So I was recently a guest on one of my favorite bewitching podcasts, Missing Witches. I love this show, and I think Amy and Risa are such thoughtful interviewers and writers themselves. And our conversation about Magic Maker was such a pleasure to do that I asked if I could just share it with you

all. And even though this episode won't air on their show until Sawin, they have graciously

and generously allowed me to release it early here for you now. So Amy and Risa, thank you so much for your support

over the years and particularly for being so enthusiastic about magic maker. You are both a couple

of major magic makers yourselves, and it was an honor to be back on your show.

And witch waivers, if you're not already listening to Missing Witches, go ahead and add them

to your podcast diet. That doesn't sound very delicious. Add them to your podcast posse.

You get the point. The show is so wonderful. They alternate between interviewing contemporary witches and featuring in-depth explorations on historical witches and witchy foremothers like Pamela Coleman Smith and Yoko Ono. And they're just such fantastic humans. So I recommend you follow the

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