It's actually not a good and beautiful and wholesome thing for a 19 year old to believe I'm going to cure cancer.

It is so easy to cast judgment, especially those that are already being roundly excoriated in every single flaw and every single mistake is being created by the public.

Do you think her board of directors was negligent?

Absolutely without a doubt.

If they should be criminally liable.

Hi, everyone. On this bonus episode of the Laila Rose podcast, we are going to do a little commentary, little discussion on criminal justice in particularly around the case of Elizabeth Holmes.

Elizabeth Holmes, as many of you may know, was the very now infamous entrepreneur who founded the company, Theranos, about a decade ago.

She founded it as a dropout from Stanford 19 years old and it was at one point worth valued evaluation was $7 billion.

She was on the cover of Forbes magazine was called 30 under 30, a rising star, the new Steve's jobs.

She had many, many accolades when she was claiming that she was revolutionizing how blood testing would be done.

And she and her technology would help save countless future lives.

The reality is much of it was a scam. It wasn't real. There was fraud happening. There was dishonesty happening.

But I'm going to sit down with my good friend, psychiatrist, Dr. Aaron Cariotti, Dr. K.

And we're going to talk about this case a little bit from the psychological side, have a discussion about was her punishment just.

I do think that there was a lot she did to mislead people, but I'm going to play a little bit of a devil's advocate because I have the maybe unpopular opinion that I do think her sentencing was harsh.

And we're just going to break it down what really went into the crime so to speak how much of her willingness, how much willingness was there to commit that crime.

How do we know what is the psychology of a crime. We're going to get into all of it.

Another thing that makes me passionate about this case or interested in it is that Elizabeth is a young mother.

She has a three month old or now four month old baby and she has a very young toddler son.

And so my heart breaks for any woman and there are tens of thousands of them who are incarcerated and separated from their very young children.

Now, obviously if the mother is a physical risk or a psychological risk to her child, I do think separation is necessary for this child's welfare.

But when maybe there's a crime that is not directly impacting that child, but it's something certainly wrong at the mother did.

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