Welcome to a bonus episode of the Think Bivocally podcast.

This is Sean McDowell here, and you might be thinking, wait a minute, it's Friday.

We're supposed to have a weekly cultural update.

Well, Scott Ray and I are taking off July to relax because those weekly cultural updates take a lot of work.

Today I'm posting a friendly debate, you might say, a substantive conversation with a self-identified progressive Christian by the name of Brandon Robertson.

Now, by a progressive Christian in a previous conversation he and I had, he holds a position that he believes Jesus sinned and repented.

Now, for those of you who follow the Think Biblically podcast, would say that is out of bounds of Orthodox Christianity and is clearly about another gospel. And I would agree with that.

Well, Brandon has a somewhat new book out on kind of querying the gospel as he says. And we have an in-depth

conversation where we look for areas of common ground. But I just push back on a lot of the

arguments he makes because I don't think you can get to an affirming position if you take the

Bible as authoritative. But Brandon is thoughtful. Brandon is a good guest who's willing to have these

conversations in a way that I think you will enjoy. So share this with a friend. Enjoy. Make sure you hit

subscribe. And thanks for following. Well, let's just jump right in. Your book is called

queer and Christian. That word has a lot of different meanings.

So why don't you tell us what you mean by queer?

Yeah, queer is an umbrella term, essentially, for the entire LGBT community.

It's grown in popularity, especially in the United States.

But for me, I lean into the actual kind of pre-LGB

definition of the term in that queer means being unique. It means being at odds with systems

and structures that ask you to conform. And so I look at that both biblically, using kind of the

Pauline language of be not conform to the the image of this world, be transformed.

It's about being authentically who God created us to be.

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