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Conspirituality

Bonus: Demons in QAnon & Beyond (w/Professor Jonathan O’Donnell)

Conspirituality

Derek Beres, Matthew Remski, Julian Walker

Spirituality, Social Sciences, Religion & Spirituality, Science, Philosophy, Society & Culture

4.22K Ratings

🗓️ 28 September 2020

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

For our inaugural bonus episode of Conspirituality Podcast, we feature a single interview: a deep dive into the demonology of QAnon and Xtian evangelicalism with Dublin-based Religious Studies scholar Jonathan O’Donnell (pronouns: they/them).O’Donnell took Matthew through a tour of modern demons: how they show up and how believers relate to them. They also explore the amazing world of “spiritual warfare handbooks,” which have a history in US evangelicalism, are bestsellers in Q-land, and in some ways resemble new-age self-help manuals. They discuss prophecy, speaking in tongues, and the impacts of demonology on marginalized identities. Professor O’Donnell specializes in American Religious and Cultural Studies, with a focus on the religious right and systems of dehumanization. They study Islamophobia, antisemitism, transphobia, and religious nationalism. Their current research analyses the relation between evangelical demonology, authoritarianism, and “post-truth politics” in Trump’s America. -- -- --Support us on PatreonPre-order Conspirituality: How New Age Conspiracy Theories Became a Health Threat: America | Canada Follow us on Instagram | Twitter: Derek | Matthew | JulianOriginal music by EarthRise SoundSystem Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is a Glassbox Media Podcast.

0:07.0

Hello everyone and welcome to the first of our bonus episode

0:14.7

Conspir spirituality podcast drops. The main episode podcasts usually run long

0:19.9

and we always have more data than we know what to do with.

0:23.0

So we're going to be spacing things out a little for breathing room.

0:26.0

And some of these mini episodes will be short and sweet and others will be more laid back and lengthy.

0:32.0

They'll all be hosted by us in. others will be more laid back and lengthy.

0:33.3

They'll all be hosted by us individually.

0:36.2

Today, I've got a deep dive into the demonology of QAnon

0:39.8

and Christian evangelicalism with Dublin-based religious study scholar Jonathan O'Donnell,

0:45.1

pronouns they-them. Professor O'Donnell takes me through a tour of modern demons and how they appear and how believers relate to them.

0:55.8

They also explore the amazing world of spiritual warfare handbooks, which have a history in

1:00.8

U.S. evangelicalism, and some overlaps with new age self-help manuals.

1:06.2

You'll hear about the fact that I have a demon story of my own but it's from my Catholic

1:11.7

childhood and somewhat different. I had the tools at the

1:14.8

time to interpret that experience in terms of my internal psychology and I was able to see that the

1:21.6

dream of the vampire was telling me something about my internal self.

1:25.0

So it was really amazing to spend time with someone who studies and understands the more

1:29.7

paranormal interpretations of demons and how these impact those who have them.

1:35.6

This is part of why I think this is a good extra segment to launch our short episodes with.

1:42.0

Professor O'Donnell goes slowly here and we cover the issue in depth and

1:45.1

as I remark at the end it feels really good to let the slow pace of scholarship

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