BONUS - Bret Stephens: America and Israel are engaged in a common fight for civilization
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🗓️ 15 March 2026
⏱️ 46 minutes
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Summary
Welcome to What Matters Now, a weekly podcast exploring key issues currently shaping Israel and the Jewish World, with host Amanda Borschel-Dan speaking with Bret Stephens, a The New York Times columnist and the editor-in-chief of Sapir magazine.
Recent polling indicates that only roughly half of Americans support the US-Israel war against Iran's Islamist regime. Stephens weighs in on why the current conflict can be both "Trump's war" and a just war.
Far from feeling that Israel dragged the US into this war, he says that for the first time in recent history, the US has a partner with whom to wage a war. "This war is different, not because it's a war for Israel. It's a war with Israel," says Stephens.
But is the American public capable of internalizing the Iranian regime as an existential threat? In answer, Stephens asks whether a patient with stage II cancer should be advised to wait to treat it until it develops into stage IV. "Thank goodness we're acting now rather than just waiting on events," says Stephens.
Assessing today's global dynamics and the authoritarian axis of Iran, Russia, North Korea and China, he turns to the 1930s, when the world was experiencing a series of conflicts that eventually led to World War II. He warns there is no Hollywood ending in sight.
And so this week, we ask Bret Stephens, what matters now.
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IMAGE: New York Times columnist Bret Stephens (YouTube screenshot) / Beirut, Lebanon, March 15, 2026. (AP Photo/Hassan Ammar)
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Times of Israel's What Matters now, a weekly podcast bringing you one issue that affects Israel and the Jewish world right now. |
| 0:12.4 | I'm your host deputy editor Amanda Borschelle Don here today with opinion columnists at the New York Times, Brett Stevens, who is also the editor-in-chief of Sapir magazine. Brett, thank you so much for joining me today. Pleasure to be with you, Amanda. Nice to see you again. It is always a pleasure, and I see in your backdrop that is a lovely day in the United States. We are here to discuss what is happening in terms of the war in the U.S. I really want to feel out from you and get your perspective |
| 0:38.5 | on how the U.S. is viewing this war, calling it Trump's war, or is it a just war? So we are going |
| 0:45.1 | to discuss all of this and more when we're back. |
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| 1:52.8 | And we're back. I'm Amanda Borsel, Dan, in Jerusalem with Brett Stevens. Brett, your columns in the New York Times are outliers, I would say, in terms of the opinions that you're voicing both on this war, but in general, I would say. |
| 2:07.0 | And do you view your role there as some kind of catalyst in a way to show a different side of America? |
| 2:13.5 | I mean, my columns, I guess, with respect to the war in Iran, are outliers among my colleagues. |
| 2:22.1 | I don't think I'm completely alone in my view that this is not only Trump's war, it is also a just war. |
| 2:30.8 | And I am trying to express that to an audience that is perhaps, say, more skeptical of my views than my old audience when I was writing columns for the Wall Street Journal or, of course, in a past life for the Jerusalem Post. |
| 2:48.9 | There is, of course, a tremendous amount of skepticism about the war, and I think it's |
| 2:53.2 | compounded of a few elements. One is profound hostility and skepticism of President Trump, not simply |
| 3:03.0 | for the way in which he took the country to war, where I have misgivings. I don't think he spent |
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