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American Prestige

Bonus - A Kurdish Front in the Iran War? w/ Djene Bajalan (Preview)

American Prestige

Daniel Bessner & Derek Davison

History, News, Politics

4.81.2K Ratings

🗓️ 8 March 2026

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Subscribe now for the full episode. Danny and Derek welcome back historian Djene Bajalan to talk about the Iran War and whether the U.S. and Israel are attempting to destabilize the Iranian state by opening a Kurdish front. They discuss debates over Israeli strategy being aimed at regime collapse, whether the United States and Israel are pursuing different objectives in the conflict, and the strategy behind attempts to destabilize Iran through peripheral pressure. They also get into reporting about a potential Kurdish front, including the roles of Iraqi Kurdish authorities, Iranian Kurdish militias in Iraqi Kurdistan, and the limits of Kurdish military capacity. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:11.5

Thing, but why don't you tell us what you think is going on before we jump into what's going on today with the Kurds?

0:19.0

Yeah, I mean, I kind of generally think that, and it's not too conspiratorial,

0:23.9

that the Israelis are pushing for a regime collapse in Iran,

0:28.9

and I think they're working at variance from the United States of America.

0:32.8

And I think they have perhaps manipulated the situation in such a way as to kind of increase the

0:41.2

paranoia of the regime, leading to crackdowns, leading to issues with legitimacy.

0:46.7

And, you know, for example, this entire sort of thought of having the Shah return, you know,

0:53.7

I don't think it's a realistic prospect, but in Iran,

0:55.9

you know, there was no hope of change. And so there was a need to kind of create an illusion that

1:01.3

there was some kind of political opposition alternative to the country. And so we see, you know,

1:09.1

from the summer onwards, all this kind of propaganda

1:11.6

regarding the Shah, which was very much the Israelis guys rather than the American guys.

1:18.4

And with the currency manipulation at the beginning of the year, the tweets from Pompeo talking

1:24.0

about Mossad agents already in there, you know, that was, I think, designed to provoke

1:27.9

a kind of crackdown.

1:29.5

It's good if there's a civil war, good.

1:31.6

If not, the regime's legitimacy is further undermined.

1:35.9

And now we've got to kind of a second stage where open war has been taken place.

1:40.1

And I think the Americans all the way through this have been, you know, hoping for some

1:43.4

kind of regime change, but something on the lines of what happened in Venezuela, where they take out the kind of top guy and then have a pliable second in command takeover.

1:53.7

But, you know, if you remember what Trump has said, he said, we had some alternatives, but they've all been killed.

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