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🗓️ 15 May 2025
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0:00.0 | NPR. |
0:11.7 | This is the indicator for planet money. |
0:13.5 | I'm Adrienne Ma. |
0:14.4 | And I'm Whalen Wong. |
0:15.7 | The bond market recently gave us a good scare. |
0:18.8 | This is after President Trump's Liberation Day announcement last month. |
0:24.0 | You may remember that there was a sell-off in U.S. government bonds. |
0:28.0 | Yeah, that was alarming because U.S. treasuries are usually this safe haven in times of economic uncertainty. |
0:35.4 | These bond market jitters reportedly spooked Trump so much that he paused |
0:39.6 | some of his big tariff plans. And the scariness of what happened with Treasuries has actually |
0:44.5 | stayed with us, like the lingering dread you might feel after watching a horror movie. |
0:51.1 | I'm still sweating, Adrian. So today on the show, we confront our fears about the bond market. |
0:57.0 | We enter a twilight zone of nightmare scenarios for U.S. Treasuries. |
1:02.3 | Come with us, if you dare, after the break. |
1:09.3 | Woo-hoo-hoo-hoo. The U.S. Treasury market is massive. We're talking almost $30 trillion worth of outstanding bonds. That's money the U.S. government has borrowed from investors. And it uses that money, along with tax dollars, to fund everything the government does. |
1:32.4 | Now, most of these bondholders are in the U.S., but investors all around the world are usually clamoring to hold U.S. treasuries. |
1:39.8 | They know historically that the U.S. pays its debts on time. |
1:43.2 | And therefore, investors don't demand a high interest rate from the U.S. pays its debts on time. And therefore, investors don't |
1:45.4 | demand a high interest rate from the U.S. government. This is part of what's known as the U.S.'s |
1:50.8 | exorbitant privilege. Mark Williams is an economist at a firm called Capital Economics. It |
1:55.7 | advises central banks and corporations on investment decisions. And Mark says investors' healthy appetite for treasuries keeps prices for these bonds high |
2:04.4 | and interest rates for government debt low. |
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