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Deadline: White House

“Bombshell after bombshell”

Deadline: White House

Nicolle Wallace, MS NOW

Msnbc, News, Ms Now, Versant, Politics, Government, The White House, Nicolle Wallace, Daily News, Washington Dc

4.66K Ratings

🗓️ 23 December 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Alicia Menendez is in for Nicolle Wallace. As the DOJ continues to drop heavily redacted file after heavily redacted file, more questions arise about Donald Trump’s relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.

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0:00.0

Hi, everyone. It is 4 o'clock here in New York. I'm Alicia Menendez, in for Nicole Wallace.

0:11.9

There is bombshell after bombshell in the latest release of the Epstein files, each revelation, adding more questions about the relationship Donald Trump had with the

0:22.1

deceased sex offender, Jeffrey Epstein. Among the 30,000 or so pages released overnight,

0:28.3

an email from an assistant U.S. attorney back in January of 2020, flagging flight records.

0:34.2

It reads, quote, the flight records we received yesterday reflect that Donald Trump

0:39.0

traveled on Epstein's private jet many more times than previously has been reported, or that we

0:45.0

were aware. On one flight in 1993, Trump and Epstein are the only two listed passengers. On another,

0:52.6

the only three passengers are Epstein, Trump, and then 20-year-old

0:56.7

named redacted. On two other flights, two of the passengers, respectively, were women who would be

1:02.1

possible witnesses in a Maxwell case. That email offers no details on the identity of the 20-year-old.

1:09.2

The prosecutors claim that Trump traveled on Epstein's jet

1:12.1

directly contradicts what Trump said in a truth social post last year, that he, quote, was never on

1:18.4

Epstein's plane. In a statement that sounds more like something Trump's lawyers would release than, you know,

1:23.8

a government agency in charge of enforcing the rule of law. The Justice Department

1:28.0

says that the files released overnight contained, quote, untrue and sensationalist claims about Donald Trump.

1:34.5

But as the email from January 2020 points out, the Justice Department in Donald Trump's first term

1:41.1

was finding things that directly contradict the person they are now publicly defending.

1:47.2

New revelations and new questions about the Epstein case in the wake of the release of thousands of documents is where we start today.

1:54.2

I want to bring in New York Times Justice Department reporter Glenn Thrush.

1:57.9

Plus legal analyst Christy Greenberg is here.

2:00.1

She is a former criminal division

2:01.7

deputy chief at SDNY and a host of the YouTube show, Courtside. Also with us, National Security

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