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Welcome to our podcast Grow Cookie Arrange with Sarah Raven and Arthur Parkinson.

We met, I would say, partly through our real passion and need for intense colour.

Both. color. Both Arthur and I are drawn to saturation.

And from when I was really young as a child,

I just completely literally had a sort of physical reaction to strong colour, not pastels, not white, really, but to strong saturated, sometimes even rainbow colour.

And I'd be walking down a street in a shopping centre or something and I would see an art shop and there would be a beautiful stack of crayons, either oil pastels or just normal

leather crayons. And I would just, it would be like a sort of bee to a fox glove. I just had

to go and stand in front of that window until eventually my parents gave me a really very beautiful set of crayons,

which I still have actually, which is in a funny sort of brown paper, three sets of drawers.

And my children used it and I hope my grandchildren will use it.

But anyway, that is how Arthur and I really honestly, I think, came to know each other, isn't it?

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, the Bold and Brilliant Garden book remains something I look at every week, Sarah,

because it's just colour and vitality of life. And it's a shame that quite often modern humanity,

whether it's the classroom or, you know, public spaces, we often

shy away from nature's provision of all this gorgeous colour. And, you know, it's funny,

isn't it? You can be on the tube and, and you're just looking at what everyone's got on. And we're

all very, not dowdy, but, we like grey we like black we're like white

browns but you don't often see you know everyone dressed in coral or orange and i just think for me

i was always attracted to nature's colours whether it be exotic birds or rock pool and enemies starfish you, you know, giraffes, African savannas.

And I remember being taken to church by my grandma Sheila quite often.

And I'd find the whole church thing very human, but I'd be completely hypnotized by stained glass windows.

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