Welcome to Mary's Cup of Tea, the self-love podcast for women, though all self-lovers are welcome here.

I'm your host, Mary Jolkovsky. I'm an author, speaker, retreat leader, and all-around self-love advocate.

And this is the podcast that will inspire you to love yourself. I get emotional thinking through and talking about this idea of raising

body positive children. And I say idea because in some pessimistic ways, it feels nearly impossible

to completely shield children from diet culture. And I'm not just talking about

your own kids. You know, I have nieces and nephews and a little sister who I'm so close to.

And just children in my life, I'm also thinking very often about how I want to raise my own

future children. And sometimes when I scroll too long on social media

and see concerning messages about body image or maybe even something comes up for me personally,

where I'm like, oh, I wonder how I would handle, you know, if my kid wanted only ice cream for

dinner. Because on one hand, I'm

super, like, eat intuitively. All foods are good foods. You know, your body will tell you what it

wants and needs. And then on the other hand, it's so nuanced, right? Because as a parent,

you want to encourage a wide array of a nutrient-filled diet,

and you want to be able to support your child in an active lifestyle, but not in a toxic way.

This conversation with Zoe Bisbing originally happened a couple years back,

and I revisited it personally for myself because she came up on my

Instagram. I'm a huge fan and follower of hers, but haven't seen her content in a while. So I went on

this whole like just binge of watching all of her videos. Is binge an appropriate word to use for that

situation? Like what other word can we we use so it's not insensitive?

Anyway, I just, like, caught up on all of the recent stuff she posted. And I literally emailed her being like, I'm going to re-air our interview because it, like, just really, it's just so, so needed. Like her message is so so, so needed. And I'm so

grateful that therapists like Zoe exist. So when I re-listen to this conversation, it just gave me

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