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Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan: Blood, Shovels, and Antlers Decoding a Disturbing Crime Scene

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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True Crime, News

4.28.1K Ratings

🗓️ 15 April 2023

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Levi Axtell, a Minnesota man, murdered elderly Lawrence V. Scully, whom he accused of stalking his young daughter. Scully was convicted in 1979 of sexually assaulting a 6 year old girl and went to prison for 2 years. When carrying out the crime, Axtell used unconventional weapons in his attack – a shovel and a large moose antler – leaving a gruesome crime scene behind. 

In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss the perplexing case of a brutal attack involving a shovel and moose antlers. They explore the difficulties faced by forensic investigators in differentiating between injuries caused by these unconventional weapons, while also examining the chaotic nature and rapid timeline of the assault, as well as the psychological aspects driving the attacker to use such odd weapons, and how the investigation unfolded in this bizarre and gruesome case.

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Show Notes:

0:00 - Intro

1:05 - Background and overview of case

2:22 - Moose antlers being used as weapons.

3:55 - Levi Axtell and Lawrence Scully had been in conflict for years and Axtell eventually got an order of protection from him. What does that mean and what does it take to get an order of protection?

6:45 - Finding registered sex offenders in your area.

8:00 - Axtell got an order of protection from Scully which was then dismissed leading to heightened frustration and alertness.

10:10 - Scully’s criminal history.

13:05 - Axtell’s previous offenses.

13:50 - How did the whole situation escalate?

14:25 - Imagine a scenario where a blood-covered man confesses to murder at a police station.

15:30 - The role of 911 in reporting crimes.

16:40 - The police must ensure the safety of the suspect and others in the vicinity.

19:40 - Start asking questions.

21:10 - The suspect is agitated, how does that affect his interaction with the police?

22:30 - The use of a shovel in this case and how that may be used as evidence by Axtell's defense.

24:25 - Has JoScott Seen people use garden tools as weapons?

27:00 - How do forensic experts analyze and decipher complex crime scenes with widespread blood, defensive injuries, and splatter?

31:35 - How do forensic experts distinguish wounds from unusual weapons?

36:00 - How does the unique shape and weight of a moose antler influence its use as a weapon and the resulting injuries compared to other blunt force weapons?

39:10 - How the short time frame and frenzied nature of the attack may impact how police or forensic experts approach and investigate the crime scene. 

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0:00.0

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0:29.5

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0:32.8

There's so much news happening around the world that we're somehow supposed to stay on top of.

0:37.9

That's why we launched the BigTik. It's a daily podcast from Bloomberg and I Heart Radio that

0:44.3

turns down the volume a bit to give you some space to think. I'm Wes Kosova. Each weekday I dig

0:51.3

into one important story and talk about why it matters. Listen to the BigTik on the I Heart Radio app

0:58.6

Apple podcasts or wherever you listen. If you're looking for more true crime, check out the

1:05.2

Piked and Massacre. New details into what was uncovered at the gruesome crime scenes in Pike County.

1:12.5

Accused murder, George Wagner faces a judge and jury. No Wagner family DNA was found at the crime scene.

1:19.7

Will he face the death penalty or will he walk free? Mark my words. This case is about to blow

1:26.6

wide open. Been to the entire season of the Piketon Massacre season four on the I Heart Radio

1:32.5

app Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

1:45.3

Body bags with Joseph Scott Morgan.

1:48.3

Many of us find ourselves in positions throughout life where we use the things that are at our

2:01.8

disposal. We use those items that we have access to in order to complete a task perhaps.

2:08.9

I guess that some people would call these tools of convenience. I'm going to speak about

2:15.0

something that we refer to in forensics as weapons of convenience. Today we're going to talk about

2:21.5

a man who out of sheer anger and rage and maybe a healthy dose of suspicion attacks another man

2:31.2

and ends this fellow's life with a mousse antler. I'm Joseph Scott Morgan and this is Body Bags.

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