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Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan: An Act of Betrayal - The Cantrells and Their Fight for Justice

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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True Crime, News

3.9 β€’ 7.6K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 3 December 2023

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

In a quiet Oklahoma town, A.J. Cantrell and his wife Patsy live lives built on community and kindness. They never expect their paths to intersect with a dangerous man whose actions will disrupt their sense of peace forever. The Cantrells, beloved by their community, meet a violent end, leaving a hole in the heart of their close-knit town.

Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack delve deep into the tragedy, examining the chilling forensic details, the devastating impact on the community, and the 37-day manhunt that gripped the nation. Morgan leverages his expertise to discuss the mechanics of the lethal 410 shotgun used in the crime, while Mack provides harrowing firsthand accounts that highlight the complexities of the case. They also explore the psychology of violence, diving into the backstory and subsequent actions of the perpetrator, Scott Eizember. Alongside forensic science and investigative details, this episode serves as a tribute to the Cantrells, whose lives were cruelly taken.

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00:00:20 β€” Joseph Scott Morgan sets the scene, introducing the heartbreaking case that took place in a small town in Oklahoma.

00:01:20 β€” Generosity and kindness in a church community are explored by Morgan and Mack.

00:03:00 β€” Joe Scott introduces the notion of a 'wolf in sheep's clothing,' personified by Scott Eizember, who arrives in town riding on a bicycle.

00:06:00 β€” A romantic entanglement between Eizember and Kathy Biggs becomes the focus as Dave Mack peels back another layer of the story.

00:07:13 β€” The importance of examining a subject's history in a homicide case is expounded upon by Joseph Scott Morgan. He asserts that such scrutiny can offer insights into potential violent outcomes.

00:09:11 β€” Dave Mack introduces Scott Eizember's horrifying acts of violence, setting the tone for the deeper forensic analysis to come.

00:10:27 β€” Dave Mack recalls the terrifying moments leading to the Cantrells' deaths. A 410 shotgun becomes the weapon of irreversible consequence. The deadly force of a 410 shotgun is anatomized by Joseph Scott Morgan.

00:16:14 β€” Joseph Scott Morgan demystifies gunpowder evidence on a body, helping listeners grasp the possible range from which the shotgun was fired. He talks about using a long-arm weapon as a bludgeon during the attack on Mr. Cantrell.

00:17:11 β€” Dave Mack educates listeners on the difference between slicing wounds and lacerations, the latter caused by blunt force trauma.

00:18:25 β€” Skull fractures and the force needed to inflict them are debated by Mack and Morgan.

At 00:24:12 β€” Dave Mack highlights how the Wright family initially welcomed Eizember before he unleashed his violent tendencies on the Cantrells, leading to a whirlpool of tragic events.

00:25:50 β€” Mack outlines Eizember's further attacks on a 16-year-old boy, a 63-year-old woman, and his ex-girlfriend, Katherine Smith, all of whom survive.

00:26:17 β€” Dave discusses the 37-day manhunt for Eizember, the kidnapping of Dr. and Mrs. Peebles, and how Eizember was finally apprehended.

00:29:10 β€” A chilling detail is revealed by Morganβ€”the unfired round in the weapon, suggesting that Eizember had potential for more destruction.

00:30:20 β€” The episode concludes with Joseph Scott Morgan confirming Scott Eizember's execution, signaling the end of a terrifying chapter for the community.

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0:00.0

Bodybags with Joseph Scott Morgan. Some of my fondest memories from childhood were getting to meet.

0:19.0

Some of my fondest memories from childhood were getting to meet the older members of churches

0:28.6

that I had attended.

0:30.0

Young people always bored me.

0:32.0

I found that the older people to be quite interesting and

0:35.4

had a lot of stories. Now every church varies, but most churches are rather generous. Many people

0:41.4

you can find in these churches will give you the shirt off their back if you're kind of down and out and particularly if they perceive that you're doing good.

0:50.0

I want to talk to you about a case today where it is the ultimate story involving a wolf in sheep's clothing.

1:00.0

A wolf that descends upon a tiny little Methodist church in a tiny little town in Oklahoma

1:07.1

and brings hell with him. I'm Joseph Scott Morgan and this is body backs.

1:13.4

Dave I don't know how you feel about it but I think that one of the characteristics of having a decent church.

1:24.8

No church is perfect, but having a decent church

1:27.2

I think goes to generosity.

1:29.8

People can pontificate all they want to and read scriptures and doing all that stuff.

1:34.8

But if people can be generous to other people, I think, and kind and loving and not necessarily

1:41.1

expect anything in return.

1:42.6

I think that's a sign of maybe health in certain ways.

1:46.0

What do you think about that?

1:47.4

Love thy neighbor as you love yourself.

1:50.2

That pretty much tells you everything.

1:52.4

That's a directive. When the Lord tells you everything. That's a directive.

1:53.6

When the Lord tells you something, you better do it.

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