Bobi Wine, the Ugandan opposition politician: From the streets to state?
The Interview
BBC
4.3 • 537 Ratings
🗓️ 20 April 2025
⏱️ 23 minutes
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Summary
Victoria Uwonkunda, reporter and presenter for BBC News, speaks to Bobi Wine, the Ugandan opposition politician, as he reflects on the personal and political challenges he has faced as well as his determination to run again as President in the next election.
Born in the slums of Kampala, Bobi Wine -birth name Robert Kyagulanyi - first entered the political arena in 2017 when he was elected to parliament with huge popular support, so much so that he became known as the ghetto president.
He went on to run against President Yoweri Museveni in the 2021 election - taking on a leader in power for nearly 40 years.
But the campaign was rocked by violence and for Bobi, countless times in jail.
Now Bobi Wine is preparing to run again in the 2026 presidential election. The Interview brings you conversations with people shaping our world, from all over the world. The best interviews from the BBC. You can listen on the BBC World Service, Mondays and Wednesdays at 0700 GMT. Or you can listen to The Interview as a podcast, out twice a week on BBC Sounds, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, I'm Victoria Oonghunda, BBC reporter and presenter, |
| 0:04.2 | and this is the interview from the BBC World Service. |
| 0:08.0 | The best conversations coming out of the BBC, |
| 0:11.5 | people shaping our world from all over the world. |
| 0:15.7 | I will come back to Russia. |
| 0:18.0 | I will participate in the elections. |
| 0:20.7 | There's an increase in violence according to the coca crop. to Russia, I will participate in the elections. |
| 0:24.9 | There's an increase in violence according to the coca crop. |
| 0:27.1 | There is no place in the world where women are equal. |
| 0:29.9 | I will give away the vast majority of my money. |
| 0:33.3 | It's my full-time focus for the rest of my life. |
| 0:44.2 | For this interview, I met with Bobby Wine, birth name Robert Changulani, the Ugandan opposition leader during his recent trip to London. |
| 0:56.2 | Through music, Bobby Wine has been an outspoken critic of Uganda's long-serving president, Yoori Museveni, using his platform to champion the rights of those he says are oppressed and marginalized Ugandans. His strong connection with the country's youth has |
| 1:02.5 | made him a symbol of resistance, even as he has faced arrest, violence, and threats to his safety. |
| 1:10.6 | This is a desire for change, a desire for freedom, a desire for better, which especially |
| 1:16.8 | people like myself have seen, I've traveled the world, and I've noticed that we can achieve |
| 1:21.9 | what other countries have achieved in our lifetime. |
| 1:24.7 | Ugandan's under the age of 35, and that is more than three quarters of the population, |
| 1:30.4 | have only known one president. |
| 1:32.9 | In our conversation, Bobby Wine reflects on the personal and political challenges he has faced, |
| 1:39.4 | as well as his determination to run again in the next election. |
| 1:44.3 | Welcome to the interview from the BBC World Service with Bobby Wine, the Ugandan opposition leader. |
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