This is Fresh Air, I'm Terry Gross. There's only four episodes left of Better Call Saul,

a series that has a lot of fans on the Fresh Air team, and a series our TV critic David

Biancoulli said could end up as the best dramatic TV series ever made.

Better Call Saul is the prequel to Breaking Bad. Saul Goodman, as we know him, would not exist

without my two guests. Bob Odenkirk played Saul in Breaking Bad and stars in Better Call Saul.

Peter Gould created the character Saul when Gould was a writer on Breaking Bad. After that series ended,

Gould co-created Better Call Saul and is now the showrunner. Better Call Saul is nominated for

Emmys as Best Drama Series and Outstanding Writing in a Drama Series. Bob Odenkirk is nominated

for Best Actor in a Drama Series. Odenkirk also has a memoir called Comedy Comedy Comedy Drama.

In Breaking Bad, Saul was a lawyer who worked on two levels. He was a slip-and-fall,

all-through, anyone kind of lawyer, working out of an ostentatious office in Albuquerque.

He starred in his own TV and radio ads like this one.

Oh, hello. I was just working on a multi-million dollar lawsuit for one of my clients.

I know what you're thinking. Yeah, a lawsuit sounds good, Saul, but uh, who can I sue?

Who can you sue? Try police departments, libraries, construction companies,

school officials, cleaning services, financial institutions, local and international.

Your neighbors, your family members, your church, synagogue or other religious institution,

your employers, your employers, customers, suppliers, companies in other countries,

companies that made the drugs that were turned into the drugs that you took.

The possibilities are limitless. But Saul, how can I sue these people in institutions?

I have no grounds. Do me a favor. Let me answer that question in person. Better Call Saul.

Oh, Saul had a talent for using scams and his motor mouth to win cases and cash in on lawsuits.

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