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Top Traders Unplugged

BO18: How to test a model over decades of Data

Top Traders Unplugged

Niels Kaastrup-Larsen

Business, Business News, Investing, News

4.8670 Ratings

🗓️ 30 April 2019

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

I often see the press write that too much money is chasing the same trends, and this being the reason that Trend Following strategies have been performing a little under par in the last few years.  So who better to ask if this really is true, than my friend Kathryn Kaminski, who of course co-wrote the bible on Trend Following with Alex Greyserman… as well as a book with me, that you can find on my website.  We also discussed how they conducted their research for their book, where they went back a very long time to test if Trend Following models really do work over centuries of data… so I think you will find this part of particular interest.  I hope you enjoy these unique takeaways from my conversation with Kathryn.

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0:00.0

One of my favorite people to discuss trend following with is Catherine Kaminsky,

0:05.6

because she has a great way of simplifying and explaining some of the key concepts in the strategy.

0:12.3

In today's short episode, we talk about the phrase crisis alpha and how it may be better to think

0:18.9

about these strategies as divergent strategies,

0:21.6

because in reality, we don't really need a crisis in order for trend following to do well.

0:27.6

Years like 2014 and 2017 are great examples of this, and perhaps even Q1 of 2019, as a more recent example.

0:38.3

We also touch on convergent strategies, which in my mind to a large extent are short

0:43.7

volatility strategies, even if not all investors realize this.

0:48.2

I think events from 2018 gave us a taste of what is to come when volatility starts to reemerge in the markets.

0:57.5

Now it's time for you to sit back and relax and enjoy these unique takeaways from my conversation with Catherine.

1:03.9

And if you would like to listen to the full conversation, and I hope you do, just go over to top traders on blog.com forward slash 41

1:12.6

and also forward slash 42.

1:19.6

I had a question the other day from someone here based in Switzerland,

1:25.7

Roman in fact, and he asked about people's perception about trend

1:32.2

following that perhaps it's performed poorly in the last couple of years because there's been

1:37.3

too much money chasing trend following after the great year of 2008. Would you hear something

1:43.6

like that? What comes to mind?

1:46.6

Well, I actually just wrote an article which is coming out for Eurex on this exact topic.

1:52.7

And I call it return of the trend. It's all about correlation. And I'll just give you sort of a view on this.

2:02.1

Sure.

2:02.2

And if you look at a trend following system, any portfolio system in general, we basically

2:10.6

we depend on correlation.

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