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(BNS) Simon Willison And SWYX Tell Us Where AI Is In 2025

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Brian McCullough

News, Technology, Daily News, Tech News

4.7984 Ratings

🗓️ 11 January 2025

⏱️ 82 minutes

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Summary

The great Simon Willison joins SWYX and I to talk about everything we learned about LLMs in 2024, and what the state of AI is generally, as we go into 2025.

Here is Simon's blog post we keep referring to:

https://simonwillison.net/2024/Dec/31...

00:00 The State of AI in 2025

10:05 The Evolution of AI Models

19:54 Challenges in AI Agents

30:07 The Future of AI in Creative Industries

38:29 The Rise of AI Influencers

40:54 Credibility in the Age of AI

43:15 The Future of User Interfaces for LLMs

51:17 Local LLMs and Desktop AI Applications

55:17 AI Tools and Applications for Everyday Use

01:01:26 The Future of OpenAI and AI Regulation

01:08:08 The Need for Better Criticism of LLMs

01:10:41 The Future of Wearables and AI Integration


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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the first bonus episode of the TechMeme Right Home for the year 2025.

0:12.1

I'm your host, as always, Brian McCullough.

0:15.0

Listeners to the pod over the last year know that I have made a habit of quoting from Simon Willison when new stuff

0:23.4

happens in AI from his blog. Simon has been become a go-to for many folks in terms of, you know,

0:32.2

analyzing things, criticizing things in the AI space. I've wanted to talk to you for a long time, Simon, so thank you

0:39.1

for coming on the show. No, it's a privilege to be here. And the person that made this connection

0:45.4

happen is our friend Swix, who has been on the show back, even going back to the Twitter spaces days,

0:51.8

but also an AI guru in their own right.

0:57.1

Swix, thanks for coming on the show also.

1:00.0

Thanks.

1:00.6

Happy to be on and have been a regular listener, so just happy to contribute as well.

1:07.1

And a good friend of the pod, as they say.

1:09.8

All right.

1:10.3

Let's go right into it.

1:12.7

Simon, I'm going to do the most unfair broad question first, so let's get it out of the way.

1:18.6

The year 2025, broadly, what is the state of AI as we begin this year?

1:26.0

Whatever you want to say, I don't want to lead the witness. Wow. So many things,

1:31.1

right? I mean, the big thing is everything's got really good and fast and cheap. Like that was the

1:36.6

trend throughout all of 2024. The good models got so much cheaper. They got so much faster.

1:42.4

They got multimodal, right? The image stuff isn't even a

1:45.0

surprise anymore. They go growing video, all of that kind of stuff. So that's all really exciting at

1:50.2

the same time. They didn't get massively better than GPT4, which was a bit of a surprise. So that's sort of

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