This is the Blood Red Podcast from the Liverpool Echo, giving you the inside track on all the big talking points from Anfield.

Hello and welcome to the latest exclusive podcast for members of the Blood Red Club.

I'm joined this week by German football expert Constantine Ekner to have a chat about the few different topics regarding Liverpool and the Bundesliga.

And there's plenty for us to get into.

Firstly though, Constantine Constantine thank you for

joining me how are things? I'm fine thanks for hearing me again. How are you?

Yeah really good thank you it's good to have you. We had you on in in January I think for a chat about Taiwani and various other players at that moment in time, but a few different topics to get into today since then

Liverpool of had Oz and Quebec on loan for example he's now moved on and gone

back to Shelka let's start with the 21-year-old defender. Liverpool, as I say, decided not to go for that 18 million pound clause.

What did you make of his loan spell in England?

And was the view in Germany that it went kind of how you expected it it might go?

I think it went under the radar in Germany.

I don't think a lot of people pay too much attention.

I mean people pay attention to Liverpool in general

because of club of course but it wasn't like there wasn't much focus on

kabag. I mean yes he has been coming up the ranks in Germany but he's still a Turkish player

He's so I think there's there was much more attention coming from the Turkish media from from German media

And also I don't know the only thing that might have been

discussed or that was discussed was about Chalka giving away one of their

best players, midway through the season and then being relegated at the end of the season.

It might not be the smartest move, especially because Scott Rahn mostthavi came in to replace basically Kabak for six months,

and Musthavi was incredibly bad. He was dropped after a couple of weeks from the team and yeah that was like that was a horror show but it fitted chalke you knowalka, that's just a horrendous season overall and I don't think like one player would have made a difference, but still it's kind of weird to give away one of your best players, especially the defender when you are struggling to get any points in the league.

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