get to the other side of pain, you know, get to the other side and or push through to the other side and I listen to that and I say, man, you know, that's a bit faulty because I believe every emotion, everything you feel, feel your feelings because there are lessons in that you're supposed to feel pain because there's a lesson in that you know I believe that

so much of my pain was my school, okay, learn this and become an expert in this because

you're going to be able to teach other people when you see it in their eyes.

You know, whenever you see a child looking like this, you're going to be able to connect with that.

I can always connect with people and the reason is because whenever you become an expert in certain types of feelings or emotions, they translate through language, they translate

across various, they're borderless, you know?

And that's the way that I'm able to connect and feel and say,

okay, I think I know what you need, let's have a conversation,

or here's my hand, I'm gonna help you through this.

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Thanks so much for taking the time to join Creative. Thanks so much for having me.

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