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🗓️ 11 June 2020
⏱️ 19 minutes
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Imara Jones joins us to talk about creating a truly inclusive Black Lives Matter movement, and getting back to the roots of Pride.
— Imara Jones is an award-winning journalist, and the creator of TransLash, a multi-episode series about what it is like to be transgender, especially a trans person of color, at a time of social backlash.
Resources:
— Trans Lifeline - Trans Lifeline is a grassroots hotline offering direct emotional and financial support to trans people in crisis - for the trans community, by the trans community.
— The Okra Project - The Okra Project is a collective that seeks to address the global crisis faced by Black Trans people by bringing home-cooked, healthy, and culturally specific meals and resources to Black Trans People wherever we can reach them.
— The Transgender District - The mission of the Transgender District is to create an urban environment that fosters the rich history, culture, legacy, and empowerment of transgender people and its deep roots in the southeastern Tenderloin neighborhood.
— Trans Justice Funding Project - The Trans Justice Funding Project is a community-led funding initiative founded in 2012 to support grassroots, trans justice groups run by and for trans people.
Music in this episode by Jeremy S. Bloom and Josh Woodward ("20/20"). Theme by Alexander Overington.
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0:00.0 | Just a quick content warning, this episode discusses violence against trans people. |
0:09.9 | So, Cass? Yeah, Tobin? Obviously, we are in this moment of reckoning where so many people are |
0:15.6 | waking up to what it means to be black in America. And now, especially with Pride here, |
0:22.1 | I hope that we'll also be making sure to make space for talking about what it means for people |
0:27.4 | who are queer and black in America. Totally. And of course, a lot of people have been talking about |
0:34.0 | this for a long time. One of them is journalist Imara Jones. Imara is an award-winning journalist and |
0:41.1 | producer. She's the creator of Translash, a documentary series that talks about what it's like to |
0:46.2 | be a trans person of color in the era of Trump's presidency. Earlier this month, she wrote an article |
0:52.1 | in the Grio about the particular dangers trans women are facing right now. It centers on the |
0:57.9 | assault of Iona Dior, a black trans woman who was attacked earlier this month in a convenience store |
1:03.2 | in St. Paul, Minnesota, by a group of black men. In the article, Imara writes, I believe that it will |
1:09.6 | be impossible for anyone to take us seriously when we say black lives matter, until the lives of |
1:15.1 | black trans women, indeed all women, are seen as equally valuable as the lives of black cis heterosexual |
1:22.1 | men. We called up Imara at her home in Brooklyn to talk about this moment we're in and how we as |
1:26.8 | queer people should be thinking about pride. Here's our conversation with Imara. |
1:37.9 | We're curious have you have you gone to protest recently and if you have, look, what have you seen? |
1:44.0 | I haven't had gone this year for a couple of reasons. One is COVID. |
1:48.2 | Right. Yeah. I personally am very uncomfortable going out in the midst of the crisis. |
1:56.0 | I don't want to be quite honestly black and sick and trans in a hospital with COVID. I just don't |
2:02.7 | want to put myself in that position that's not wise. It's not a wise thing to do given the hostility |
2:10.7 | of our medical system to trans people, given the hostility of our medical system to black people. |
2:15.8 | It's just not a good trick. Yeah, it's fair. And for that same reason being black and trans and |
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