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The New Yorker Radio Hour

Black Thought Takes the Stage

The New Yorker Radio Hour

WNYC Studios and The New Yorker

News, David, Books, Arts, Storytelling, Wnyc, New, Remnick, News Commentary, Yorker, Politics

4.25.5K Ratings

🗓️ 4 February 2022

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

Tariq Trotter, best known in music as Black Thought, the emcee of the Roots, is regarded by many hip-hop fans as one of the best freestyle rappers ever. His work changed shape when the Roots became the house band for Jimmy Fallon’s late-night show, and again when he began performing standup comedy. “I’ve spent most of my career with my sunglasses and my hat pulled down low, very many layers of defense,” he tells Jelani Cobb. “You’re up there as a comedian, it’s just you and your ideas and a microphone, no light show, no band. . . . After having done this for over thirty years, what else can I do, how can I become a better storyteller?” Trotter’s latest endeavor has been writing the music and lyrics for “Black No More,” a musical-theatre production based on the eponymous novel, by George Schuyler; the script is by John Ridley, with direction by Scott Elliott. Schuyler’s book is a dark satire, written during the Harlem Renaissance, that describes the development of a “cure” for Blackness; Trotter stars as Dr. Junius Crookman, who believes that this remedy will solve America’s problems with race. “My focus became almost rapping as little as possible” in the show, Trotter says; “I wanted this to be above and beyond folks’ expectations.”

“Black No More” is in previews at the Pershing Square Signature Center. It opens February 15th.

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is The New Yorker Radio Hour, a co-production of WNWC Studios and The New Yorker.

0:09.5

Welcome to The New Yorker Radio Hour, I'm David Remnick.

0:12.6

The MC to Rik Trotter, who's known in music as Black Thought, is considered by many to

0:18.1

be one of the best rappers of all time, and you probably know his work with the roots,

0:23.1

the long-running hip-hop collective that's been the house band for Jimmy Fallon for more

0:27.8

than a decade.

0:28.8

Welcome from the legendary Rook's crew, a multiple Grammy award winner, Tariq Trotter,

0:34.8

aka Black Thought.

0:40.8

Oh, yeah, she's metaphor in the house.

0:43.8

Thank you so much.

0:44.8

I love having you on this side, man.

0:46.8

Yeah, let me see, you know, it's cool.

0:48.8

One step closer to behind the desk.

0:52.8

Outside of his long career with the roots, Trotter has also worked as an actor.

0:56.8

Lately, he's been performing comedy too, and he's just made his theatrical debut in Black

1:02.8

No More.

1:03.8

I heard a doctor preaching about a science that could turn Black White without the bleaching.

1:07.8

Doctor, what are you thinking?

1:09.8

That which must have you thinking into some insane.

1:11.8

Trotter wrote most of the music and lyrics, and the book is by John Ridley.

1:15.8

The show is based on a satirical novel of the Harlem Renaissance that dates from 1931.

1:22.8

Trotter stars as a doctor who invents a treatment to make Black people look white.

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