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Hey, so it's been a few months, Joe, since we talked. I am so interested in my first question.

Okay, you're obviously, you entered the race, how many months ago?

Pretty early is February of 2021.

Is it exceeding meeting? Are you underwhelmed?

You got to explain this process because every guy knows, so Graham Allen's a buddy of mine too.

And every guy that I know is like, this is a, like a bare knuckle fist fight.

Politics is like a bare knuckle fist fight. So you got to walk me through your experience in this, man.

Yeah, I think that's, I mean, that's fairly accurate. I'd say a bare knuckle fist fight.

I mean, this is somewhere between doing unconventional warfare, going out and doing travel engagement every day,

which that part feels familiar to me. I think the meat and potatoes of doing politics to like an SF guy, I think would feel relatively just familiar because you're having to go and talk to different people and have different perspectives and seeing how you can kind of make those perspectives, you know, mesh together and then have some sort of a coherent plan.

That part feels very familiar when it comes down to the fundraising and then going from being, and you probably can relate to this from being a very private person to being a very public person.

That's where it's like an unfamiliar bare knuckle fist fight. I guess a real bare knuckle fist fight would feel way more familiar than like having to live in, you know, the limelight, which comes with it.

I knew that that was going to happen. But then I think a lot of two just having to deal with, you know, raising, raising a bunch of money, asking people for money,

and then, you know, really worrying about stepping on people's toes, all that type of stuff. So yeah, it's been, I think I would say it's, there's a lot of stuff I just didn't anticipate.

But I kind of knew I was getting into the unknown. So I guess that's where I'm at.

How much, how much money does this cost? Can you talk about that? Like, what?

Yeah, we cost.

I mean, pretty much everybody in DC will tell you like you never have enough money and just so constantly keep raising the motion realistic numbers. I've, I've heard this is based on how the last couple cycles went.

It's, it's basically $2 million, $2 to $3 million. Like probably closer to three to be really competitive. And that's just because the incumbent that I'm going up against.

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