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Change Agents with Andy Stumpf

Black Project Ep. 4: Reverse Engineered

Change Agents with Andy Stumpf

IRONCLAD

Society & Culture

4.9648 Ratings

🗓️ 29 April 2025

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

On the finale of Black Project, a surprise visit from a CIA agent and an aerospace executive sets a Stanford professor on an unexpected journey. What begins as a cryptic request quickly draws one of the world’s leading scientists into the covert world of crash retrieval operations—and onto the trail of a possible UFO crash site. Change Agents: Black Project is an IRONCLAD Original Sponsors: Firecracker Farm Use code IRONCLAD to get 15% off your first order at https://firecracker.farm/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

One afternoon in 2011, Dr. Gary Nolan was working at his office at Stanford University,

0:11.0

when he received a visit from two strangers.

0:13.0

They literally showed up unannounced and said, hi, we're here.

0:17.0

I work with the CIA and the other was an aerospace organization executive. And these are

0:24.6

the medical cases we'd like your help on. It was a meeting that would soon alter the course of

0:30.2

his life.

0:52.3

Music Dr. Nolan is one of the world's leading blood pathologists, and today serves as professor in the Department of Pathology at Stanford University's School of Medicine. His specialty is developing instrument platforms and techniques to more effectively study

0:58.0

blood-related issues.

0:59.0

His work also earned him a nomination for a Nobel Prize.

1:03.0

And they didn't come to me because I had any special experience in UAP or the phenomena.

1:08.0

They were doing complete medical workups on this cohort of individuals,

1:12.1

about 100 individuals from the military and the defense establishment on the IC and diplomatic

1:18.3

corps. And they'd asked around and they said, well, we want to do blood analysis for inflammatory

1:25.1

events. Who's the best person we can talk to? And they said,

1:28.8

well, you've got to go talk to this guy, Nolan at Stanford. He has the world's most advanced

1:33.0

instrument for looking at blood and giving you a detailed report on these things. And that's when

1:39.3

they showed up in my office and asked me for my help. As the two individuals would explain to Dr. Nolan, the patients that were experiencing

1:46.4

unexplained issues in their brains had come in contact with, quote, exotic materials

1:51.1

that originated from what the military now calls unidentified anomalous phenomena. didn't become about UAP until about 30 minutes or so into the, into the discussion.

2:10.6

And that's when I began to look around to see if there was a candid camera somewhere

2:15.6

pointed at me from one of the other windows.

2:20.7

What got me intrigued was the data that they showed. I mean, they didn't just say, hey, these

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