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Making

Black actors don’t want to be your sidekick

Making

WBEZ Chicago

Society & Culture

4.63.7K Ratings

🗓️ 22 April 2025

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

From Ossie Davis and Ruby Dee on The Guiding Light to the first Black super-couple, Jesse and Angie on All My Children, Black soap actors have been on the canvas. According to an executive at CBS, Black women overindex as soap watchers, which has led to the first new daytime soap in decades. Beyond the Gates debuted with a core Black family in February 2025. It’s an exciting time to be a Black soap fan. Even though there’s been Black representation, Black writers and actors have often had to push to be more than sidekicks, according to soap writer Shannon Peace. “You see the faces; they’re there,” Peace said. “But what are the storylines? Why do we still feel often like they’re being backgrounded or there being support staff, to prop [up] other characters or other families? And when I say other characters or other families, I mean white characters or white families.” Peace said she doesn’t see that problem in primetime television, but it still exists in daytime. “I feel in primetime mode, for the most part, they’ve done away with a Black sidekick, with a Black friend — that Black best friend — and you have Black characters in meaningful front-facing roles that are driving story. I don't see that in daytime.” You can listen to this podcast episode by following “Making: Stories Without End” on Apple, Spotify, Pocket Casts, NPR One or wherever you get your podcasts. Episodes drop every Tuesday for six weeks starting April 8.

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0:00.0

From WBEZ Chicago, I'm Natalie Moore,

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and this is Making Stories Without End.

0:09.0

Here, I take you on a journey to learn about daytime soap operas

0:14.0

and their broad reach on television.

0:17.0

Many people don't know that the serial started right here in Chicago. Join me as we talk about the social impact, history, and lasting legacy of television's

0:27.6

unique immersive storytelling.

0:33.6

Listen, Victor Newman has a hold on black soap opera fans, especially women.

0:44.7

I don't care how long it takes, and I don't care how much it costs.

0:50.3

But when I'm through with you, Jagerman, you'll have nothing. You'll be nothing.

0:57.4

For more than 40 years, Eric Braden has played this leading man on The Young and the Restless.

1:02.5

It's the number one daytime drama, more than 3 million viewers a week.

1:07.0

And it's number one among African-American viewers.

1:10.7

Victor Newman, Debenair, swagger, the distinctive accent.

1:16.2

He takes no shit.

1:17.6

Pounds enemies.

1:19.4

I'm Victor Newman. I'm the Victor Newman.

1:22.1

Do you understand that? I've made my own life.

1:25.1

I'm wealthy beyond your wildest dreams.

1:28.0

There are so many hilarious memes about black grannies, grandmas, and auntie

1:32.7

swooning over him all these years.

1:35.2

He is their soap boyfriend.

1:37.0

The Victor Newman raised a generation of kids homesick from school or staying with their grandmamas

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