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Bitwise CIO Matt Hougan’s $6.5M Bitcoin Call: “Long Term Investors Will Be Rewarded” | Markets Outlook

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🗓️ 30 January 2026

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

Bitwise CIO Matt Hougan breaks down the 2025 bear market, central banks’ preference for bitcoin over gold, and Solana’s potential to challenge Ethereum's dominance. Bitwise Chief Investment Officer, Matt Hougan joins CoinDesk’s Markets Outlook with Jennifer Sanasie and Andy Baehr. He explains why he believes 2025 was a bear market and where he sees markets going from here. Hougan breaks down why central banks are eyeing bitcoin as a superior self-custody tool to gold, Bitwise’s on-chain yield vaults, and why he's betting on Solana as the challenger to Ethereum's dominance. With President Trump tapping Kevin Warsh for Fed Chair, Hougan weighs in on what this means for crypto. Notably, Warsh is listed as an investor and advisor on Bitwise’s website.- Timecodes:0:53 - Why Are Markets Down Today?3:13 - Precious Metals vs. Bitcoin7:05 - Why the Crypto ETF Genie is Already Out of the Bottle9:15 - Bitwise’s On-Chain Yield and DeFi Vaults13:22 -What Central Banks Are Asking Bitwise About Bitcoin17:44 - How Matt Hougan Thinks BTC Gets to $6.5 Million in 20 Years19:15 - Beyond BTC and ETH: Matt Hougan’s Case for Altcoins21:00 - Solana vs. Ethereum: The Battle for Wall Street24:20 - What Impact Would Trump’s Fed Reserve Chair Nominee, Kevin Warsh, Have on Crypto? - This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie.

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0:00.0

What the precious metals rally is telling you, not the last few weeks, but the last year,

0:05.7

is that the world is worried about fiat currencies.

0:08.9

The world is interested in self-custody.

0:11.7

Those roads eventually lead to Bitcoin and crypto.

0:26.6

Hey, everyone. You're watching Markets Outlook on Coin Desk. I'm Jen Sannessy here with Andy Bear. And joining us this morning is BitWise, CIO Matt Hogan. Matt, welcome to the show. Happy New Year. I'm so glad to be here.

0:35.9

We're so glad to have you here. Now, I wish the news,

0:39.2

I wish we kicked off 2026 and a little bit of a better state. I mean, Bitcoin and Eid down over 5% this

0:46.3

morning. Talk to us about how you've been watching the markets over the first month of the year.

0:51.3

What are you taking away? What is this telling you about where we're going?

0:53.9

Yeah, look, we're extremely bullish long term on where crypto is going, including through the

0:58.3

end of this year. I think what we're working through, what I've realized after reflecting over

1:02.7

the new year is we were in a bare market in 2025. Many of the all coins down 60 plus percent.

1:08.7

Bitcoin would have been down sharply, if not for the huge buying by

1:11.9

corporations and ETFs. So we're in the bottoming phase that comes at the end of a bear market.

1:18.1

I think that's what we're seeing this year. We're seeing a little bit of capitulation on

1:22.5

ETF flows, which have been weak. We still see retail sense a bit pretty weak. I think we're at the sort of the

1:28.8

rounding bottom part of the end of the bear market. And I'm pretty optimistic about where we go.

1:34.9

I know it's looking rough out there today, but I still think the stars are aligned for a good

1:39.0

2026. Well, where do we go? Oh, well, I look, I think we're going to, my actual expectation is that we chop higher for a period.

1:48.1

If you talk to long-term crypto investors, if you look at the skew in the options market, what you see is this pretty strong channel between about 75 and a little bit above 100,000.

2:00.1

I still think there's a lot of Bitcoin for sale around

2:02.6

that $100,000 mark. I think it would take us a lot to get through that. So for the first half of the

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