Welcome to the big interview bite size. I'm Graham Hunter and in each episode you'll hear an elite footballer tell a story that's guaranteed to brighten your day.

All of them will come from my podcast,

the big interview with Graham Hunter,

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Right now you're going to be with Walter Smith, the former Rangers, Everton and Scotland manager, about an infamous European Cup semi-final

between Roma, boo-boo and Thunder United.

Booish.

Listen, I'm Aberdeen, managed by Jim McLean,

with Walter as his assistant. I'd argue one of the most

controversial matches in Scottish European football history but the first voice on this

clip is mine as I show Walter one of the

great football photographs. I'm showing a picture that doesn't come up well on podcasts. But it's the semi-final of the

European Cup. You and Jim McLean, I beaten Rome with 2-0 at 10 and ice.

And there's a photo here in a game which when I was watching it didn't look as if the referee was neutral,

that's my position.

And you and Jim McClain, two tough soldiers,

you wouldn't easily be cowed,

are surrounded by Roma players.

One of them looks as if he's about to jump you.

The other one is middle fingering you.

They're up close.

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