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🗓️ 17 October 2023
⏱️ 101 minutes
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Today we have two representatives of the Bitcoin mining firm Luxor Technologies: Nick Hansen, CEO, and Matthew Williams, Head of Derivatives. In this interview, we discuss derivative trading, the potential impact of the BlackRock ETF on the market, the challenges Bitcoin miners face, the political and economic situation in Argentina, and the importance of hedging in business operations.
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Bitcoin’s price has been relatively stable for well over a year. Whilst prices have recovered from the cycle lows seen in November 2022, the rapid price swings, which have been a feature of the market since its launch, have subsided. Nevertheless, a series of events are aligning that raise the prospect of a renewed period of volatility in the near future: the approval of a spot ETF, the Bitcoin halving, and further macro shocks.
The issue for capital investment in the Bitcoin mining space is that such volatility distorts and stresses normal business management practices. There have been numerous mining companies that have suffered existential crises because they have over-extended at the wrong time, or, they have had ineffective hedging strategies. Luxor aims to help improve the cost of capital for Bitcoin miners through the introduction of new derivative products.
Luxor’s strategy is predicated on hashrate being treated as an asset class; miners are able to sell their hashrate forward, guaranteeing a return. The contracts are determined by an agreed hashprice, which is a function of various variables: the block subsidy, transaction fees, network difficulty, and bitcoin price. These contracts are then tradable as derivatives, which enables investors to gain exposure to Bitcoin mining without needing to be physically involved.
Luxor is also working on additional financial products, including what will be a controversial yield instrument. There is still significant hesitancy in the community around such markets, and it will take time to build liquidity. Perhaps a new approach can renew demand for lending. And, if anyone can pull this off, who better than a diversified company that weathered a brutal bear market that aggressively showed who was naked when the tide went out?
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0:00.0 | The reason this is actually different is because there is actual proof of work, there is demonstrable economic activity happening. |
0:07.0 | You're just giving up some of the yield or some of the margin that you would produce from that mining yield to somebody that financed your |
0:14.2 | operation. |
0:15.2 | Hello there from Sunny Bedford, how are you all doing? |
0:18.7 | Right, before we get into the show, I just want to let you know that I released my |
0:22.0 | latest documentary yesterday. |
0:23.7 | Follow the money part four Argentina's inflation crisis. It's available on |
0:28.4 | YouTube which also has Spanish subtitles, rumble and also in its entirety on Twitter. |
0:34.4 | Looking forward to your feedback on that one. |
0:36.8 | Anyway, welcome to the What Bitcoin did podcast, |
0:39.1 | which is brought to you by the Absolute Legends at Iris Energy, |
0:41.9 | the largest NASDAQ listed Bitcoin miner using 100% renewable energy. |
0:46.0 | I'm your host Peter McCormack and today we have Nick Hanson and Matt Williams on the podcast, |
0:51.0 | but before we get into the details of the show I do just want to say thank you to |
0:54.5 | everyone who came out to McMullen Park to Rail Bedford this weekend for our |
0:58.4 | latest Bitcoin meetup we actually had a record crowd at the game of 471 |
1:02.4 | people and they saw us beat |
1:04.0 | Stadster 2-0 which was great but it was super surreal for me I had Jameson Lop |
1:08.7 | there Rob Hamilton and CK all in Bedford all witnessing what we're building here around Bitcoin of football. |
1:15.0 | Very, very cool. |
1:16.0 | Hopefully more of you will come out soon. |
1:18.0 | All right, on to today's show. |
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