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Welcome to the Sean Morgan Report.

I'm here with Peter Young from Free Private Cities.

Peter, can you tell us a little bit about yourself and this organization you belong to?

Hi, Sean.

So my name's Peter Young and I'm the managing director of the Free Private Cities Foundation, which is a small not-for-profit organization aimed at promoting a, or creating a market for living together globally. And what we mean by that is that we want to try and introduce more competition into the market for governance, so the way in which

people are organizing themselves on a societal level.

And we've got a specific model for doing that, called the Free Private Cities model,

that's based on a contract type of society, whereby cities are run by a for-profit operating company

and the for-profit operating company has a contract with each individual citizen.

So rather than having a kind of social democratic model where everyone goes to the polls every

five years and decides what the policies are going to be. We use a legal basis in order to define the relationship between the government

or the operator of the city and the citizen. And we think that this is better for everyone

involved because it makes the rights of both the city operator and the citizen clear. It allows for long-term

planning. It creates stability. But crucially, it's an entirely voluntary system. We don't

have a system where people can come in and completely change the rules and confiscate people's

property or restrict their activity. We have everything set out in clear terms, arbitrated by a third party legal body.

And this is the model that we're proposing for creating competition in the market for living together.

And it's something where some of the functional elements have already been adopted in various projects around the world.

Can you give us some examples?

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