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In Our Time

Bird Migration

In Our Time

BBC

History

4.69.2K Ratings

🗓️ 6 July 2017

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

In a programme first broadcast in 2017, Melvyn Bragg and guests discuss why some birds migrate and others do not, how they select their destinations and how they navigate the great distances, often over oceans. For millennia, humans set their calendars to birds' annual arrivals, and speculated about what happened when they departed, perhaps moving deep under water, or turning into fish or shellfish, or hibernating while clinging to trees upside down. Ideas about migration developed in C19th when, in Germany, a stork was noticed with an African spear in its neck, indicating where it had been over the winter and how far it had flown. Today there are many ideas about how birds use their senses of sight and smell, and magnetic fields, to find their way, and about why and how birds choose their destinations and many questions. Why do some scatter and some flock together, how much is instinctive and how much is learned, and how far do the benefits the migrating birds gain outweigh the risks they face? With Barbara Helm Reader at the Institute of Biodiversity, Animal Health and Comparative Medicine at the University of Glasgow Tim Guilford Professor of Animal Behaviour and Tutorial Fellow of Zoology at Merton College, Oxford and Richard Holland Senior Lecturer in Animal Cognition at Bangor University Producer: Simon Tillotson.

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0:00.0

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0:02.0

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0:12.0

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0:14.0

Hello, for millennia, bird migration was a complete mystery to humans.

0:18.0

Today, while what we know is remarkable, much of blood mystery remains.

0:22.0

There was an idea in ancient Greece that birds turned into fishes when they were not around.

0:27.0

In Age of Folk laws, some were thought to turn into barnacles, others to hymenate in cliffs or at the bottom of lakes.

0:33.0

And perhaps those ideas are less extraordinary than what we now know.

0:37.0

For example, the birds weighing less than a cup of water can fly across oceans non-stop from New Zealand to Alaska, breed and return.

0:45.0

How birds know where they're going is not yet fully understood, but may include some combination of internal clocks,

0:52.0

of ways of detecting magnetic fields and of heightened sense of smell.

0:55.0

With me to discuss bird migration are Barbara Helm, reader at the Institute of Biodeiversity, Animal Health and Comparative Medicine at the University of Glasgow.

1:04.0

Tim Gilford, Professor of Animal Behabia and Tutorial Fellow of Zoology at Burton College Oxford, and Richard Hollen, Senior Lecturer and Animal Cognition at Banger University.

1:14.0

Tim Gilford, can you define migration for us and it is lonely for birds? Can you give an overall view of migration?

1:22.0

Yes, well I think migration means different things to different people, but the sort of classical definition of migration would be something which a bird for example or a turtle which makes a very long journey repeatedly from one season to the next, from one year to the next,

1:43.0

between a breeding site in one location and an overwintering site somewhere else on the planet. So it sees very long distance, repeated return movements which are usually seasonal between breeding and overwintering, the iconic definition of migration.

2:00.0

People do refer to migration of plankton and fish on a daily basis in the marine water column, up towards the surface at night and down deeper during the day and some people would regard that as migration.

2:12.0

So it's different things to different people, but it always involves this kind of cyclical, surprising movement.

2:18.0

So birds are not alone in this, that's what I'm trying to establish.

2:21.0

Absolutely right, some of the greatest migratory species on the planet are turtles for example or whales.

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