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It's so funny because when you look at the guys, that's never a topic of conversation.

Yeah. What you look like. Did you watch the football last night? It's never about,

I'll watch your skincare routine. Whereas women walk into a room and because we've been taught to be pitted against each other,

not always, but sometimes there's, oh my God, you know, I can't.

It's a bit of a barrier.

Yeah, yeah, and it shouldn't be there.

We should be trying to change that stereotype,

believing that there is space for everybody.

Billy, football started. Football did start. If the season ended today,

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