I think, you know, I was about details. I noticed details. I organized certain details and could do that, but that didn't mean I had the gift of administration. So I was falsely labeled. But I think it posed a challenge because I constantly failed at organizing most things.

And then I felt like I was a failure because if it's supposed to be a gift, why is it so hard?

And so it caused a lot of just interpersonal issues for us because you had expectations and I had expectations for myself to be able to do things.

And I couldn't.

It just wasn't in me.

I had to learn other things,

but it was always a challenge for me. All right, Mark and Grace here with the Real Marriage

podcast. And for those of you that would be willing to do so, it should be a big gift to us.

Wherever you listen to podcasts, go and write a review and say very nice things,

especially about my wife, Grace.

So why don't you read one example of what a good review would look like?

So this one says my favorite marriage podcast, five stars. Thank you. My wife and I love this podcast. I recommend it to all people regardless of your relationship status. You know it's a great podcast when you talk to your friends and they also are listening to it.

Very nice. From Canadian-born 613.

They have the internet in Canada?

Yeah.

It must be a big week.

That kind of new technology.

Fancy.

Well, what we're doing in this series of episodes is we are looking at what's called spiritual gifts.

Your divine design.

How God made you, made your spouse, and we're looking at

the various gifts that God is given to you and how those can work together to build and strengthen

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