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Billion dollar babies: Trump-Musk spat

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The Economist

News, News & Politics

4.35K Ratings

🗓️ 6 June 2025

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

What happens when the world’s most powerful man falls out with its richest? Our correspondent analyses where the Trump-Musk brawl leaves the relationship between MAGA and tech. How Israel’s far-right is influencing the war in Gaza (10:13). And why rhyme is on the decline (and verse is getting worse) (21:01). 


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The Economist. Hello and welcome to the intelligence from The Economist.

1:12.0

I'm your host, Rosie Bloor.

1:14.0

Every weekday, we provide a fresh perspective on the events shaping your world.

1:23.1

Israel's hard-right politicians have used the war in Gaza as an opportunity to further their political power.

1:29.6

Our editor-in-chief interviews Bezalel Smotrich, the finance minister,

1:33.5

to find out how hardliners like him are influencing the conflict.

1:40.3

And there was once a lot of rhyme in poetry, but the modernist thought that verse lacked artistry.

1:46.4

So the rhyme declined and the poets opined,

1:49.4

using long words that were clever but lacked gaiety.

2:00.0

First up, though...

2:01.6

Elon and I had a great relationship.

2:07.6

I don't know if we're well anymore.

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