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This is CBS I and the world. I'm John Bachelor. I welcome Bill Whelen at the Hoover Institution,

the host of Policy and Politics Podcast, as well as Goodfellas, the podcast video cast of Bill speaking with his colleagues at the Hoover Institution.

Right now we're speaking of Bill's most recent column about California and the

presidency. There are examples to hold up successful examples and the two that come to mind and

Bill helps us with them are Richard Nixon winning in 1968 and Ronald Reagan winning in 1980.

California and yet, Bill, a very good evening to you if I understand this,

what we have with Ms Harris is not only a

Californian but a San Francisco and I take it that that is a distinctly

different group than saying Ronald Reagan's from California or Richard

Nixon's from Yorbilinda.

How so, Bill.

Good evening to you.

Good evening, John.

Well, what I pointed out the column was if you look at say Richard Nixon's

Park, John, he is born in very modest circumstances in Yorbalinda, as you mentioned

his father had a ranch, the ranch failed, they ended up having to move. His father ended up opening up a gas

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