Bill Wasik and Monica Murphy: Our Kindred Creatures

Species Unite

elizabeth novogratz

Society & Culture, Philosophy

5 • 911 Ratings

🗓️ 24 April 2024

⏱️ 37 minutes

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"I think that's often the solution when feeling sort of bogged down in the issues of our day is when you zoom out and you look at sort of the whole arc of change, you can sort of get inspired that, yeah, we've come a long way." - Monica Murphy

Bill Wasik is the editorial director of The New York Times Magazine and Monica Murphy is a veterinarian and writer. Their latest book, Our Kindred Creatures: How Americans Came to Feel the Way They Do About Animals, comes out today, April 23rd.

It's a book about moral change and a moral revolution, one that took place from the 1860s to the 1890s in the United States. Over those three decades, the way we treated animals completely changed. It was the time of the birth of the ASPCA, of many SPCAs, of the anti-vivisection movement, and of the first animal shelters.

It was a time of massive change.

Even though I think most people who listen to this podcast know that we need a much larger moral revolution in terms of how we treat animals, this book gave me so much hope that it can actually be done.

Please listen, share and read Our Kindred Creatures. https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/634494/our-kindred-creatures-by-bill-wasik-and-monica-murphy/

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0:00.0	I think that's often the solution when when feeling sort of bogged down in
0:17.5	in the issues of our day is when you zoom out and you look at sort of the whole
0:22.0	arc of change you you can look at sort of the whole arc of change you can sort if you like today's episode and you have a spare minute
0:45.4	Could you please rate and review Species Unite on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts? It really helps people to find the show.
0:55.0	This conversation is with Bill Wasek and Monica Murphy.
1:05.0	Bill is the editorial director of the New York Times magazine and Monica is a veterinarian and writer.
1:11.0	And their latest book, Our Kindred Creatures,
1:14.8	How Americans Came to Feel the way they do about animals
1:18.6	comes out today, April 23rd.
1:21.4	It's a book about moral change and a moral revolution, one that took place
1:25.3	from the 1860s to the 1890s in the US. It was a time where the way we treated animals
1:32.2	completely changed. It was the birth of the
1:35.0	ASPCA of many SPCAs of anti-vivisection, which is live testing on animals, of
1:42.2	animal shelters. It was a time of massive change, even though I think most people
1:47.7	who listen to this podcast know we need a much bigger moral revolution in terms of how we treat animals.
1:55.3	This book gave me so much hope that it can actually be done. Hi, Monica, hi Bill.
2:15.0	Thank you both for meeting me here today.
2:18.0	So glad to be here.
2:19.0	Yeah, thanks for having us.
2:20.0	We're here to talk about your newest book,
2:22.0	your latest book, Our Kindered Creatures, which I loved, but you know I'm somebody who spends most of their time immersed in how we treat animals. That's like what I read about, what I write about, what I talk about, and I learned
2:36.5	so much from your book I can't even tell you. I knew in the 1800s the ASPCA started, I knew
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