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I'm David Remnick. This is the Politics and More podcast. This season, the player on everybody's

mind, hasn't set foot on the field even once. Colin Kaepernick, formerly of the 49ers,

is an unsigned free agent. But the silent protest against police brutality that

he began last year, taking a knee during the national anthem, now has a life of its own. We can

thank the president of the United States, of course, for reigniting a protest that was not very

popular in the first place, and had kind of lost its momentum after Kaepernick left the 49ers.

Wouldn't you love to see one of these NFL owners when somebody disrespects our flag,

to say, get that son of a bitch off the field right now out. He's fired. He's fired!

The New Yorkers Jolani Cobb recently sat down with Bill Rodin,

late of the New York Times, now a contributor to ESPN's website, The Undefeated.

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