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The New Yorker Radio Hour

Bill McKibben and Elizabeth Kolbert: Is It Too Late to Save the World?

The New Yorker Radio Hour

WNYC Studios and The New Yorker

Politics, Arts, News, Wnyc, Books, David, Storytelling, Society & Culture, Yorker, New, Remnick

4.2 • 6.2K Ratings

🗓️ 10 May 2019

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

After years of languishing far down the list of voters’ priorities, climate change has moved to the top of many voters’ concerns, according to a new CNN poll. Now Presidential candidates are competing to establish themselves as leaders on the issue, and children are making headlines for striking from school over the issue. Bill McKibben, whose book “The End of Nature” brought the idea of global warming to public consciousness thirty years ago, tells David Remnick that the accumulation of weather catastrophes—droughts, wildfires, floods—may have finally made an impact. “You watch as a California city literally called Paradise literally turns into hell inside half an hour,” McKibben reflects. “Once people have seen pictures like that, it’s no wonder we begin to see a real uptick in the response.” McKibben joined the New Yorker writer Elizabeth Kolbert in a conversation about the U.N.’s new report on biodiversity. It finds that a million species could become extinct within a few decades and that human life itself may be imperilled. Although the political tide could be turning, both worry that it is too late. “The problem with climate change is that it’s a timed test,” McKibben notes. “If you don’t solve it fast, then you don’t solve it. No one’s got a plan for refreezing the Arctic once it’s melted. . . . We’re not playing for stopping climate change. We’re playing—maybe—for being able to slow it down to the point where it doesn’t make civilizations impossible.”  And Karen Russell, whose books are inspired by her native Florida, finds a new sense of enchantment after relocating to the Oregon coast, where the big trees are like characters out of Jim Henson.

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0:00.0

From One World Trade Center in Manhattan, this is the New Yorker Radio Hour, a co-production of the New Yorker and WNYC Studios.

0:09.7

Welcome to The New Yorker Radio Hour. I'm David Remnick. While the headlines from Washington have been

0:14.9

dominated by the fallout from the Mueller report even now, what we're hearing from the voters is that

0:20.4

this is not the most pressing

0:22.1

issue on their minds. Not at all. For Democrats, in fact, the top concern appears to be, not the

0:28.1

president, but climate change, according to a new CNN poll. That reflects a new sense of urgency

0:34.9

around all of this. Students around the globe are walking out of school on climate strike.

0:40.3

We are in Geneva, Italy, protesting against climate change,

0:48.3

because politicians today are not willing to do enough about it.

0:52.3

In Britain, the House of Commons just declared that the planet is in a climate emergency.

0:57.2

This House must declare an environment and climate emergency.

1:00.8

As minutes up, they'll say, aye.

1:02.8

Aye.

1:03.5

In the contrary, no, I think the eyes have it.

1:06.1

And as if we needed more evidence of the sense of crisis,

1:09.7

the UN last week released the findings of a report,

1:12.8

describing the potential disappearance of a million varieties of life on Earth. It's all very

1:19.2

frightening to read. Bill McKibben has been writing about climate change for decades. His book,

1:25.1

The End of Nature, which was published in The New Yorker, has been credited

1:28.4

with breaking the news of climate change to a wide public. And our staff writer, Elizabeth

1:33.4

Colbert, is the author of the Pulitzer Prize-winning book, The Sixth Extinction, which was

1:38.0

excerpted in the magazine. We all spoke last week on the day the UN's findings came out.

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