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Spiegel & Holmes Show

Bill Kurtis on the news industry: 'We're in trouble'

Spiegel & Holmes Show

Audacy

Sports

4.2652 Ratings

🗓️ 23 September 2025

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

Laurence Holmes and Leila Rahimi were joined by legendary news anchor/journalist Bill Kurtis to discuss the state of the news industry and his new book "Whirlwind: My Life Reporting the News."

Transcript

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0:00.0

There was a time, a time before cable, when the local anchorman reigns supreme.

0:12.3

WBDM TV, Chicago.

0:14.8

Now, Bill Curtis, this is Channel 2 News at 10.

0:18.8

Do you think are top story?

0:19.9

You are associated with some of the most horrific acts that humanity has ever perpetrated.

0:24.6

I love them all.

0:26.6

For American justice, I'm Bill Curtis.

0:29.6

Unlike New York, where the Gambinos and other families competed for control,

0:33.6

the Chicago outfit was ruled by one family and one godfather.

0:38.3

Akardo's power was grounded in fear.

0:41.3

John Wayne Gacy led two lives.

0:43.3

He dressed up as Pogo the Clown for charitable events and was active in local politics.

0:48.3

While Frank Rosenthal and Tony Spilatro had grown up in the same rough Chicago neighborhood,

0:53.3

they were fundamentally different.

0:55.6

Lefty new thugs, Tony Waswa.

0:58.8

The ant was the first gangster to break the mob rule that said you don't kill people in Vegas.

1:04.8

All hell broke loose, the story of Richard Speck's life.

1:08.6

Even etched on his arm, the infamous born-to-rays-held tattoo, the very

1:13.2

instruments of Spex captured. And in San Diego, one anchorman was more man than the rest. His name

1:21.3

was Ron Burgundy. He was like a god walking amongst near mortals.

1:28.7

He had a voice that could make a wolverine purr.

1:33.3

And suits so fine they made Sinatra look like a hobo.

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