Bill Kristol: This Is So Third World

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.6 • 8.9K Ratings

🗓️ 4 August 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

The boss only wants to hear good news: that's the takeaway from Trump's high-profile firing over the weak job numbers. So if a government worker has something bad to report, they now know they'll have to lie to keep their jobs. And this isn't only about key information on the economy—it's also about hurricane forecasts, intel threats, and potential military mishaps. Meanwhile, the Texas redistricting stand-off is fraying the fabric of our democracy. Plus, Fox's own producers think Jeanine Pirro is a reckless maniac, direction from the top was the only way Ghislaine Maxwell could have been moved to a 'Club Fed' prison, and Democrats debate how much to work with Republicans who don't keep their word.

Bill Kristol joins Tim Miller.
show notes

Today's 'Morning Shots'
The 'Bulwark Takes' Apple feed
Tim on 'Pod Save America' on Friday
Some of the victims' testimony from Maxwell's trial
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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to the Buller podcast.
0:15.1	I'm your host, Tim Miller.
0:16.6	It is Monday, August 4th, so we're here, of course, with Editor at Large Bill Crystal.
0:21.4	How you doing?
0:22.0	Fine, Tim.
0:22.5	How are you?
0:23.5	I'm doing well.
0:24.3	I'm here in L.A.
0:25.0	and a little programming reminder for everybody. We got that Bullwark Takes feed. You should check out if things are happening. I was out here in L.A. on Friday. and I was over at the Ponsave America studio,
0:20.0	and we did a pretty funny YouTube video about Candace Owens.
0:22.7	People should check out when all the breaking news was happening at the Ponsave America studio, and we did a pretty funny YouTube video about
0:37.8	Candace Owens.
0:38.5	People should check out when all the breaking news was happening around the firing of the
0:42.5	Commissioner of Labor Statistics.
0:43.7	So if that happens where we get off scheduled on this podcast, you can check out that feed.
0:49.1	But I've so much more to talk about.
0:51.6	So obviously nobody's missed it at this point.
0:56.0	But Trump ordered the firing of the commissioner of labor statistics, essentially the head of the Bureau of Labor Statistics,
1:00.5	hours after a government, after her report, or the government report, rather, showed significant
1:06.6	slowing in the economy the past three months. He bleated that the jobs numbers were all caps
1:13.2	rigged in order to make the Republicans and all caps me look bad. And he attacked McIntyre
1:22.0	personally. And she was dismissed from the role. There are just so many layers to this story.
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