From KCRW Santa Monica and KCRW.com, it's The Treatment.

Welcome to the treatment, the treatment, the home edition. It's always good to have an old friend do the show, especially some I haven't talked to in a very long time,

who, when I last spoke to him, he was an Emmy contender. He is now an Emmy winner. The third season of his unusual and incredibly satisfying show, Barry is about to start up on HBO. Of course, talking to Bill Hader.

Bill, welcome back. Hi, how are you? This third season is just, I guess to jump into this,

it really seems to be a season about people accepting responsibility on the show. Yeah. Yeah,

it's kind of people realizing there's consequences. Yeah, I mean, that was definitely a thing when we started writing the first day of writing

season three.

You know, you never kind of start with like themes.

But one of the ideas, the ideas tended to go towards consequences.

I was wondering how you sort of emotionally follow up the second season,

which ended in a really kind of explosive way emotionally and physically,

and just to make it really about almost all the main characters on the show,

of either Barry or Noho Hank or Sally,

just having to sort of become in some way adult and accept responsibility for their actions,

even to some extent, Gene Cousno, played by Henry Winkley,

everybody having to sort of say, oh, well, I have to sort of own up to who I am and what I've done.

Yeah, it's true. It's, it's, it's funny how you, you know, when you sit down to write these things and you go, okay, how do we not just keep repeating ourselves when you have like a very concepty kind of show.

You know, so it's like,

you say hitman takes an acting class

that has like a kind of a concept to it,

or it's more concepting.

And then like the whole thing with the show

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