You are about to listen to a BBC podcast and I'd like to tell you a bit about what goes into making one.

I'm Sadata Sese, an assistant commissioner of podcasts for BBC Sounds.

I pull a lot of levers to support a diverse range of podcasts on all sorts of subjects,

relationships, identity, comedy, even one that mixes poetry, music and inner city life.

So one day I'll be helping host develop their ideas, the next fact-checking, a feature,

and the next looking at how a podcast connects with its audience.

And maybe that's you.

So if you like this podcast, check out some others on BBC Sounds.

Music So if you like this podcast, check out some others on BBC Sounds. He's here.

I can feel it.

When I saw heat, it sort of unlocked the fantasy in me that I need to be a bank robber.

I need to be as cool as these guys.

I was just taken by its power.

Tom Justice lived life like he was in a movie.

If you heard part one of this story,

and if you haven't, I ask you to go there now.

You'll know that Tom could have been a real-life Olympian.

He was scouted as a natural cycling talent,

but his obsession with films that heat and the slacker movie Reality Bites

meant he couldn't really be bothered to put in the work it takes to be an athlete.

So Tom didn't use his biking skills to win medals.

He used them to rob banks.

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