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Music Welcome back to Until Saturday. I'm Ari Wasserman, joined by Chris Vinini, who I met at the mall on Friday and walked around and ate lunch with.

And I got to say, for like being in your mid-30s, that's a really good way to catch up with somebody because you can talk, you get your steps in, you can buy some stuff, and they've got a lot of food options. Chris, how are you doing today? Dude, we're both big mall guys. Like, like, I just love going to the mall walking around. Look, there's not exactly a downtown area in some of the places that we live or that's very walkable. But my brother came into town the previous weekend, and him and I went and walked around at two different malls in the Dallas area. So you and I went to yet another mall. I'd never been there before grapevine mills. I, had a good time, man. Malls are coming back.

Every time I go, it's crowded. Uh, I've read some stories about those stores that are doing well

with Gen Z. So I'm, I'm hopeful about the future. Yeah. Uh, hopefully kids get the same

childhood that we got, which was go to the mall and high school, walk around with your friends. But now, as an older man, it's better than just sitting around if you're

trying to get to 10,000 steps, which I currently am right now, because I would love to see my feet

again one day. Okay, we got a pretty big show today. I think we're going to pinpoint this year's

pressure cooker games, meaning games that the loser, no matter who it is, their fans are going to freak out. And there were a lot of games to go through. I think we're going to have more than one episode on this. We'd love to hear what you guys have to say after we go through the games that we picked for another episode. We also are going to talk about the top five programs that you would love to play with or that we're looking forward to playing with in the EA Sports College Football game when it comes out next month.

We both have a list of five and Antonio Morales also added five.

The story is live on the athletic Tuesday morning as you're listening to the show, but we're going to walk through it here. And we're going to start with Nebraska A.D. Troy Dannen and some of his thoughts on NAL and advantages and disadvantages in the future. We're going to start the show there. But first, be sure to follow the podcast on Apple wherever you listen to your podcast. Please help support the show by dropping a five-star review. Anything that you can do to interact with the channel helps it grow, helps our health,

and certainly makes things better for the future. So Chris, do you want to get into it?

Let's get into it, Ari. Nebraska A.D. Troy Danin says that Ohio State and Oregon's NIL budget is over $20 million.

Over the weekend, the TikTok account 247 Huskers released a video of the new Nebraska athletic director, Troy Danin, speaking to the Huskers Collective, the 1890 initiative at an event in April.

And I didn't see this.

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